Fredly things that you think aren't?
05-05-15, 05:36 PM
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05-05-15, 07:37 PM
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I hate the schoolboy look of calf-length socks, so I wear the low-ankle socks, just because
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05-05-15, 07:44 PM
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I've never heard the term. Does anyone know the origin?
ETA:From the context of this thread, I can surmise that I'm probably not one. I ride in gym shorts and a tank top, most of the time without a helmet. Fred's would likely find me hugely repugnant. I do say "on yer left" when I blow past them on my Flat Pedaled Hybrid. I'm not a complete savage.
ETA:From the context of this thread, I can surmise that I'm probably not one. I ride in gym shorts and a tank top, most of the time without a helmet. Fred's would likely find me hugely repugnant. I do say "on yer left" when I blow past them on my Flat Pedaled Hybrid. I'm not a complete savage.
05-05-15, 08:01 PM
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I've never heard the term. Does anyone know the origin?
ETA:From the context of this thread, I can surmise that I'm probably not one. I ride in gym shorts and a tank top, most of the time without a helmet. Fred's would likely find me hugely repugnant. I do say "on yer left" when I blow past them on my Flat Pedaled Hybrid. I'm not a complete savage.
ETA:From the context of this thread, I can surmise that I'm probably not one. I ride in gym shorts and a tank top, most of the time without a helmet. Fred's would likely find me hugely repugnant. I do say "on yer left" when I blow past them on my Flat Pedaled Hybrid. I'm not a complete savage.
05-05-15, 11:56 PM
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Huh. That's not the definition Ive seen. Ironically, calling other people a Fred, actually makes you a Fred. Oops... 
in the US, a Fred is more often somebody with higher quality and more expensive gear than his or her talent would warrant. For example, a Fred could be guy with little cycling experience who watches the highlights of a few Tour de France stages, then goes to a bike store and buys a Trek carbon fiber Madone in Team Discovery colors, along with Team Discovery shorts and jersey, and then rides it on a cycling path at 15 mph (25 km/h).
Some use "Fred" in a somewhat similar matter, but more synonymous with a roadie poseur. Such a person is more aware of roadie culture, and wants to be seen as a roadie despite lacking in the requisite ability and style (whereas the other type of Fred may have purchased some high-end gear, but is oblivious to road cyclist ways).
An interesting corollary for the poseur type of Fred is that if someone is worried about being a Fred, he probably is one of these Freds. In addition, it is this type of Fred who is most likely to use "Fred" as a derisive term for others.
Some use "Fred" in a somewhat similar matter, but more synonymous with a roadie poseur. Such a person is more aware of roadie culture, and wants to be seen as a roadie despite lacking in the requisite ability and style (whereas the other type of Fred may have purchased some high-end gear, but is oblivious to road cyclist ways).
An interesting corollary for the poseur type of Fred is that if someone is worried about being a Fred, he probably is one of these Freds. In addition, it is this type of Fred who is most likely to use "Fred" as a derisive term for others.
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05-06-15, 12:43 AM
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With the number of cheap Cree -based LED lights you can get these days, surely some Fredly Person has Quadrophenialised their bike by now...
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05-06-15, 07:43 AM
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So there are now at least three clear definitions in circulation.
1. Fred: the cyclist who could care less about appearance of either bike or kit, or about type of bicycle for that matter, but who rides so much/so far that he or she could and will rip 'your' legs off -- but never intentionally. The key thing here is that this Fred is NOT self-aware about his/her status in the cycling world. The late Patrick Plaine would be a very good example; poster bareyb a very good counter-example.
2. Fred: the cyclist who (self-consciously) feels that he/she is "defying cycling convention" by ostentatiously not caring about bicycle type, kit, appearances, etc. This Fred 'makes statements' and tends to post prolifically on BF. One sub-group of this Fred can be heard frequently to boast about how he/she can rip the legs off "those roadies" while riding his/her hybrid or mtb in cut-offs, sneakers, etc. etc. No shred of evidence is ever produced, of course, to support these claims. Another sub-group likes to "just ride" and complain about technology getting in the way of the 'joys' of cycling; will sometimes start 'waving threads'.
3. Fred: poseur. 'All the gear and no idear'. Commonly spotted riding alone or in groups of two or three on the MUP or at a Starbucks near you. Likes to say things like 'on your left' as he/she passes a three year-old on a tricycle. Often "trains" for charity rides, which he/she considers to be 'races'.
05-06-15, 12:13 PM
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Replica jerseys.
Because they look good and, at least where I ride, there's no possibility of mistaking someone for a world tour rider.
e: Full kit
Because they look good and, at least where I ride, there's no possibility of mistaking someone for a world tour rider.
e: Full kit
05-06-15, 12:26 PM
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Correct. This redefinition is largely down to BSNYC; 'Fred' as in
So there are now at least three clear definitions in circulation.
1. Fred: the cyclist who could care less about appearance of either bike or kit, or about type of bicycle for that matter, but who rides so much/so far that he or she could and will rip 'your' legs off -- but never intentionally. The key thing here is that this Fred is NOT self-aware about his/her status in the cycling world. The late Patrick Plaine would be a very good example; poster bareyb a very good counter-example.
2. Fred: the cyclist who (self-consciously) feels that he/she is "defying cycling convention" by ostentatiously not caring about bicycle type, kit, appearances, etc. This Fred 'makes statements' and tends to post prolifically on BF. One sub-group of this Fred can be heard frequently to boast about how he/she can rip the legs off "those roadies" while riding his/her hybrid or mtb in cut-offs, sneakers, etc. etc. No shred of evidence is ever produced, of course, to support these claims. Another sub-group likes to "just ride" and complain about technology getting in the way of the 'joys' of cycling; will sometimes start 'waving threads'.
3. Fred: poseur. 'All the gear and no idear'. Commonly spotted riding alone or in groups of two or three on the MUP or at a Starbucks near you. Likes to say things like 'on your left' as he/she passes a three year-old on a tricycle. Often "trains" for charity rides, which he/she considers to be 'races'.
So there are now at least three clear definitions in circulation.
1. Fred: the cyclist who could care less about appearance of either bike or kit, or about type of bicycle for that matter, but who rides so much/so far that he or she could and will rip 'your' legs off -- but never intentionally. The key thing here is that this Fred is NOT self-aware about his/her status in the cycling world. The late Patrick Plaine would be a very good example; poster bareyb a very good counter-example.
2. Fred: the cyclist who (self-consciously) feels that he/she is "defying cycling convention" by ostentatiously not caring about bicycle type, kit, appearances, etc. This Fred 'makes statements' and tends to post prolifically on BF. One sub-group of this Fred can be heard frequently to boast about how he/she can rip the legs off "those roadies" while riding his/her hybrid or mtb in cut-offs, sneakers, etc. etc. No shred of evidence is ever produced, of course, to support these claims. Another sub-group likes to "just ride" and complain about technology getting in the way of the 'joys' of cycling; will sometimes start 'waving threads'.
3. Fred: poseur. 'All the gear and no idear'. Commonly spotted riding alone or in groups of two or three on the MUP or at a Starbucks near you. Likes to say things like 'on your left' as he/she passes a three year-old on a tricycle. Often "trains" for charity rides, which he/she considers to be 'races'.
05-06-15, 03:45 PM
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That's a shame. Not that there are THREE definitions, but that there are any definitions at all. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Most all of us look silly to someone.
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Sometimes if I'm in the mood, I'll go as Fredly as possible (flashing lights, koopa troopa sized helmet, plain hi-viz yellow jersey, black shoes/white socks combo, etc) then just go out and crush fools. Just cuz I can.
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Good, bright, front and rear blinkers.
Fredly? Nah. An indicator of a cyclist operating on a higher plane? Yah.
Fredly? Nah. An indicator of a cyclist operating on a higher plane? Yah.
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I like those crush fools statements. Sometimes people are in Zone 2 training after a week of intense training; others have 150km done and are in their last 10km for a century. Others just took care of 3 kids at home and didn't get a night sleep.
Crush those fools! All of them!!
Crush those fools! All of them!!
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Or, they just enjoy letting some random dude think he crushed them ;-). Sort of like import sports cars "drag racing" 60's domestic muscle cars, but never shifting into high gear.
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Showing up for a road ride with a hybrid bike or mountain bike
I guess I did that, 75 mile ride, it did not specify "road ride"...but it was on roads, I finished the 75mi, and did not finish last either :-). Some folks rode part of the ride and bailed partway due to other commitments too, at that time it was the ONLY bicycle I had :-). Trek 7200 hybrid with 700x35 tires. I'm glad I did it :-).
I guess I did that, 75 mile ride, it did not specify "road ride"...but it was on roads, I finished the 75mi, and did not finish last either :-). Some folks rode part of the ride and bailed partway due to other commitments too, at that time it was the ONLY bicycle I had :-). Trek 7200 hybrid with 700x35 tires. I'm glad I did it :-).
75 miles on a hybrid is a very good days work. Plus if it did not specify the type of ride, that should be enough of a technicality to keep you out of road bike jail.
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When the authors of The Rules start pedaling my bike for me, I'll follow the rules.
Ok. Which one is the dork disc? The front white one? The rear red one? The two white wheel discs? I never removed the front and wheel discs. I removed the rear to fit my saddle bag and rear blinking light.
My Fredly things: front and wheel reflectors, saddle bag, rear blinking light, Lezyne pump next to my water bottle holder, Cardo BK-1 on my helmet and me not ridingfast.
Ok. Which one is the dork disc? The front white one? The rear red one? The two white wheel discs? I never removed the front and wheel discs. I removed the rear to fit my saddle bag and rear blinking light.
My Fredly things: front and wheel reflectors, saddle bag, rear blinking light, Lezyne pump next to my water bottle holder, Cardo BK-1 on my helmet and me not ridingfast.
05-07-15, 06:21 PM
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The Dork Disc is usually a round clear or black plastic (old ones were metal) ring mounted between the largest gear in the cluster and the spokes. It is meant to protect your spokes in case you overshift and send the chain past the largest cog. I didn't initially remove mine because it was out-of-sight and covered up by my largest cog anyways which of course meant it was actually useless. Ironically enough it's also referred to as a spoke protector but mine ended up sawing into my spokes after many years of road vibration.
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Wow. I had no idea. Thanks for clearing that up for me!
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