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Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

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Old 05-31-15, 10:50 AM
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I am not sure that they are better than Sidi but the best S Works model (with carbon Soles) costs $400 while the best Sidi's cost about $500. The moral is that getting first rate does not mean that you need to spend the most money.
That extra $100 is all marketing hype.

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There's no effin way shoes should be that expensive I don't care what they say.
P.T. had it right all along.
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Originally Posted by v70cat
I am not sure that they are better than Sidi but the best S Works model (with carbon Soles) costs $400 while the best Sidi's cost about $500. The moral is that getting first rate does not mean that you need to spend the most money.
And the $170 Specialized Comp is a damn fine shoe. My first pair are going strong at about 5 years. I just got tired of them so I bought another pair to have something new. That buy the best and keep it forever stuff has a lot of pitfalls. There is always an optimum value compromise that isn't about the priciest. Folks who don't know how to find it are destined to over pay or under buy. Schade!
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The $170 are fine but have plastic soles which would result in hot spots on 90 mile rides, if are doing 20 or 30 miles thst are a good way to go.
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Originally Posted by v70cat
The $170 are fine but have plastic soles which would result in hot spots on 90 mile rides, if are doing 20 or 30 miles thst are a good way to go.
Interesting. Of course carbon soles are plastic too, but I suspect you meant flexible plastic soles. I have always worn moderately priced cycling shoes and never had a problem on centuries. Just lucky I guess.
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I just got some of this. I'm looking forward to the performance gains.

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I just got some of this. I'm looking forward to the performance gains.

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I agree it's worth investing in a good quality shoe, but you don't have to pay MSRP for them. There are many good deals to be had if you look around and are patient. I just bought Shimano's top of the line, carbon sole, heat moldable shoe, that lists at $487 for around $180. My last few pairs of shoes also had carbon fiber composite soles which were very stiff.
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Originally Posted by v70cat
The $170 are fine but have plastic soles which would result in hot spots on 90 mile rides, if are doing 20 or 30 miles thst are a good way to go.
Maybe
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I agree it's worth investing in a good quality shoe, but you don't have to pay MSRP for them. There are many good deals to be had if you look around and are patient. I just bought Shimano's top of the line, carbon sole, heat moldable shoe, that lists at $487 for around $180. My last few pairs of shoes also had carbon fiber composite soles which were very stiff.
Yes in the last year or so a number of manufactures have started making carbon sole bike shoes that are competitive with the name brands and if you are careful you can get a good buy. My S works are over 3 years old now and at the time the choices were limited.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Interesting. Of course carbon soles are plastic too, but I suspect you meant flexible plastic soles. I have always worn moderately priced cycling shoes and never had a problem on centuries. Just lucky I guess.
Some feet are less sensitive so I am glad they work for you. I still think carbon soles are the way to go.
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Today's ride was cold, dreary and windy but I did find a car that matches my FG:

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Some feet are less sensitive so I am glad they work for you. I still think carbon soles are the way to go.
I wonder what the history of this is. Pros and enthusiasts in the past rode with leather soles or even leather/wood soles far more flexible than the glass-reinforced nylon ones we have in moderately priced shoes today. Maybe that is where the original "hotfoot" complaints came from.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
I wonder what the history of this is. Pros and enthusiasts in the past rode with leather soles or even leather/wood soles far more flexible than the glass-reinforced nylon ones we have in moderately priced shoes today. Maybe that is where the original "hotfoot" complaints came from.
..they were also a lot younger and less beat up than we are. #goodol'days I never had foot issues until last year.
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..they were also a lot younger and less beat up than we are. #goodol'days I never had foot issues until last year.
Glad I'm not getting any older. Oh, wait a minute. That doesn't work so well, does it. Drat.
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I wonder what the history of this is. Pros and enthusiasts in the past rode with leather soles or even leather/wood soles far more flexible than the glass-reinforced nylon ones we have in moderately priced shoes today. Maybe that is where the original "hotfoot" complaints came from.
"Pros" used to cross the Atlantic on sailing ships why use trucks or planes?
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40ish mile out to scout the course for next week's 20k TT. Rode out with a friend who has done it a number of times. Located the start and the turn-around. I decided while I was out there to just ride the course TT-style but below my target power for next week. For a simple thing, riding a TT is tricky. Damn undulating earth surface. Per coach, I'm supposed to go all-out for the last minute. There are no markers on the course, so I needed to find my landmarks. So after riding 20 miles out there and the 12ish mile TT course, I then did a bunch of 1 min strong efforts. Very tired legs. And then 20 miles more to get back to town.

I rode with one of my favorite cycling friends who I haven't ridden with for months. Just awesome to ride with him again, we ride really well together. We also got crop-dusted by a helicopter and chased by a big farm dog.

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Originally Posted by Trsnrtr
Today's ride was cold, dreary and windy but I did find a car that matches my FG:

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Originally Posted by v70cat
"Pros" used to cross the Atlantic on sailing ships why use trucks or planes?
Who uses trucks to cross the Atlantic?
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You rode 90 miles with me. We had a good time.
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