garysol1 

Completely different..... From the shape of the back of the saddle to the length of the nose to the size and shape of the cutout and very importantly the amount of flex built into the base. The padding is thinner and denser. Basically the only thing that they have in common is that they are both bike saddles and both have a cutout...... that's about the only thing they have in common.

chaadster

That's really sad.

chaadster

Wait! I know...they're both black! Ooh! Ooh! And they have rails!!

garysol1 

and there's that........lol....

revchuck 

My coach likes to assign me 2 to 2-1/2 hour rides on the TT bike - it's my first year racing one, and she wants me to get comfortable (as much as one can be) on it. The Sitero is available in one size, really narrow. All my saddles are 150-155mm wide. The Power is available in 155mm, so I got it. It makes the longer rides bearable - not fun, but bearable.

garysol1 

Makes sense. With the Power saddle now available I wonder if there is any reason to even sell the Sitero anymore. Good info. Thanks

on the path

Completely different:


Completley-er different:



Oh my:



I'm not saying one couldn't notice a difference riding the 2 depicted in my original post. But come on, the designs are pretty much the same.

garysol1 

Small changes make BIG differences in saddle comfort. If that were not true we would all be riding the same exact saddle in bliss. As it is it takes many riders a dozen different saddles to find the right one. The devil is in the details.

on the path

I'm in agreement with you. We are talking about minute differences, which often alter comfort level significantly. But to say those 2 saddles are completely different is absurd.

chaadster

I'd be willing to bet that, beyond rail shape and spacing in the clamp area, there is not one single measurement that they share in common, making them effectively and quantifiably completely different. In that respect, they are as differnt as any of the other pictured saddles.

garysol1 

I had the same exact response all typed out then decided it was not worth the effort and deleted it....lol

chaadster

Well you're probably right about that!

Next burning question: simian, human, or no different? Sheesh.

Jiggle

There are few saddles I can't ride. Those two are quite similar. I just use a bare carbon with a cut out. Works fine.

chaadster

There are few saddles anyone can't ride, including bare carbon cut out, but those two saddles are so different because some saddles are better for some people than others.

I love the vapidity of this conversation, btw.

Jiggle

From what I've read on here over the years, finding the right saddle is like finding your one true love in a sea of endless options. I've never seen anyone post, "There are few saddles I can't ride" or "Most saddles I try, I like".

on the path

You may, however, see posts such as:

"More leg strength will put more of your weight on the pedals and less of it on the saddle."

"Saddle problems with me have always gone away after a well timed and well paced htfu period."


After one develops the appropriate leg and core strength and a good riding position, ones saddle becomes fairly insignificant. The problem is that all too many riders would rather spend time looking for a saddle than doing enough quality miles on the bike.

I ride with the strongest cyclists in my area. We talk about bikes a lot. We never talk about saddles. Never. Let that sink in for a while..

wheelzqc

What do you mean by level to the ground? You have a level on the back and nose and set it level?

ttusomeone

The power saddle is designed so that it sweeps upwards after the nose. So if you are looking at it the front half is level and the back half sweeps up. I run mine with the front half level to the ground. I did use a level on the front half to get it level although it takes some guessing to decide where exactly it starts sweeping up.

wheelzqc

Ill continue to play with it. It just feels that ill slide forward at a certain point. You're supposed to sit on the white dots, which would be sloping down if I have the nose level.

ttusomeone

Yes, the part you sit on is supposed to be sloping down. That's the design of the power saddle and why it differs from other saddles. It allows you to be in an aggressive position but have your hip angles more open due to the slope. The flat level nose keeps you from sliding forward when in the aggressive position. If you don't normally have an aggressive fit the saddled probably won't be comfortable.

Wheever

I've been on a saddle quest and just ordered one of these from my LBS! Unfortunately, it's coming in Thursday, and I'm leaving town for 5 days tomorrow.

wheelzqc

Yes, my position is aggressive enough. When I got "fitted" the saddle was level from nose to the end of the relief hole. Do you have like that ? I tried many angles from lower to higher, they all feel good, just different. Lower angles was hard on the arms after a while. I had it leveled (nose to back) yesterday for a mid-week race and even that felt OK. There's not much pressure at the wrong place with this saddle.

ttusomeone

I think the biggest thing is to keep doing what you're doing and adjusting it until you feel comfortable. I have mine live starting from the nose to about 3 inches back when the saddle starts to slope up.

evrythngsgngrn

I just put one of these on my wife's bike. If it was the right width for me I'd probably steal it. I ride the romin evo and next time I buy a saddle, it will be this one. The way I was told to set it up (based on design) was to level the saddle the way you normally would, and then drop the nose down about 4 degrees. Seems to be working for her so far and when I tested the bike it definitely felt comfortable. Just as comfortable as my romin evo, but more so when rolling forward to be in the drops.

wheelzqc

I'll check tonight for fun where it ends up. So with a level on the two highest point they told you it should give -4 degrees. You're in Ottawa, we might have bought it at the same place. Unless I'm wrong, not that many Specialized dealers.