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It also should not have included the word Fred. A Fred is a person who rides a tip-shop bicycle with a handlebar bag and trunk bag, while wearing a T-shirt, baggy shorts, and mid-calf socks with sandals ... but who logs more kilometers than you'll ever imagine or who has enough strength to pass you on a climb.
What you're describing here ... "His point is that non-competitive riders, which includes me, have no business spending thousands and thousands on upscale bikes" ... is a Poseur.
What you're describing here ... "His point is that non-competitive riders, which includes me, have no business spending thousands and thousands on upscale bikes" ... is a Poseur.
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I don't make that distinction. Normally, one cares about what others think, depending on who those others are and what they mean, but in general one tends to care regardless, otherwise I would be writing this without any care for clarity, grammar, spelling, and punctuation, and I don't even know who is going to read it.
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Expensive stuff is about ego. Bicycle is about freedom. Looking at the world through the eyes of a child makes you see a red/blue/whatever bike, not a carbon frame Dura Ace equipped bike.
What works well and lasts long, at least when it comes to Shimano is middle of the range. Acera and above MTB and Sora and above road equipment.
BTW, my motorcycle is a 14 year old 600cc Yamaha and as far as NEEDs go - it is more than I really need - but no 400cc bikes in good condition were available in my country at the time I was looking for a 2nd hand motorcycle.
What works well and lasts long, at least when it comes to Shimano is middle of the range. Acera and above MTB and Sora and above road equipment.
BTW, my motorcycle is a 14 year old 600cc Yamaha and as far as NEEDs go - it is more than I really need - but no 400cc bikes in good condition were available in my country at the time I was looking for a 2nd hand motorcycle.
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A poseur is someone who is trying hard to hide his fredliness...but who can't quite pull it off.
A fred makes no pretensions. We're proud to be freds; and glad not to be poseurs!
A fred makes no pretensions. We're proud to be freds; and glad not to be poseurs!
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I wonder what's the label for those whose character compels them to invent or use demeaning categories in which to place others with whom they share a hobby, so that they can feel superior.
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Ride whatever you want. It's fun to have nice things--no matter what your ability level.
But, don't show up to the next group ride and be all giddy and mouthy about. Enjoy your nice ride, but don't be a d!ck. If you are, you'll deserve what you get! If you do, optimally you'll be left a destitute puddle of tears at the end of the ride.
But, don't show up to the next group ride and be all giddy and mouthy about. Enjoy your nice ride, but don't be a d!ck. If you are, you'll deserve what you get! If you do, optimally you'll be left a destitute puddle of tears at the end of the ride.
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Aerodynamic safety flag & clipless flip flops ?
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Ride whatever you want. It's fun to have nice things--no matter what your ability level.
But, don't show up to the next group ride and be all giddy and mouthy about. Enjoy your nice ride, but don't be a d!ck. If you are, you'll deserve what you get! If you do, optimally you'll be left a destitute puddle of tears at the end of the ride.
But, don't show up to the next group ride and be all giddy and mouthy about. Enjoy your nice ride, but don't be a d!ck. If you are, you'll deserve what you get! If you do, optimally you'll be left a destitute puddle of tears at the end of the ride.
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All good advice. I take exception to the video because it suggests that unless you ride what "Funnzie" (the video author) thinks is sensible you are either squandering resources or a sucker being fleeced by bike manufacturers. It's yet another form of derogating people, so he can feel smarter. Not much different from the gentlemen who like to call other bikers names like Fred or poseur, or what have you. You would think that sharing the same hobby would mean solidarity not discrimination, but some people aren't happy unless they put someone else down. Be people of another color, another country, another state, or people who ride certain bikes in a certain way. I consistently avoid such people, but they are everywhere, bike forums, guitar forums, you name it.
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All good advice. I take exception to the video because it suggests that unless you ride what "Funnzie" (the video author) thinks is sensible you are either squandering resources or a sucker being fleeced by bike manufacturers. It's yet another form of derogating people, so he can feel smarter. Not much different from the gentlemen who like to call other bikers names like Fred or poseur, or what have you. You would think that sharing the same hobby would mean solidarity not discrimination, but some people aren't happy unless they put someone else down. Be people of another color, another country, another state, or people who ride certain bikes in a certain way. I consistently avoid such people, but they are everywhere, bike forums, guitar forums, you name it.
I could go just as fast on my former $300 Bikesdirect bike as I can on my Venge. I had just as much fun 25 years ago on a POS resurrected BSO I found in the garbage, as I do today on high-end bikes. I enjoy owning the nice bikes now, but if I weren't able to afford them, I could still enjoy cycling just as much on cheaper bikes- Funnzie is merely pointing-out that fact. You don't NEED a fancy expensive bike. He's not saying there's anything wrong with having one if you want one.
He's just stating the facts: If you can't afford to spend $10K or $5K or even $2.5K on a bike, you can still enjoy the cycling hobby, and not be at a disadvantage.