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Old 05-29-15, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by RPK79
I read somewhere that carbon forks are only good for 5 years so the frames are likely right around there too.
Makes sense...not!
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Really makes you think- I watched some historic Formula 1 cars racing last summer in Canada. There was a 1981 Mclaren MP4/1 on track, the first F1 car to use a fully composite chassis. Needless to say, given the extreme forces involved in auto racing and the age of the crabon, the car shattered into millions of tiny fibers on the first lap of the race and the driver was lucky to escape with his life.
Could be from oxides of nitrogen in the auto exhaust concentrated on the track.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Coukd be from oxides of nitrogen in the auto exhaust concentrated on the track.
Such a good point. I caught the car owner after the race and he was in tears, blaming it on the fact that he'd left it out in the rain overnight the week before the race. I'll have to shoot him an email explaining that the asplosion was most likely due to nitrogen oxide.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Makes sense...not!
Hey, it was from a reputable source @datlas who heard it from a friend who got the information direct from Lynskey.

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Hey, it was from a reputable source @datlas who heard it from a friend who got the information direct from Lynskey.

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No need to rehash this in another thread. Once was more than enough. I'm just pulling your chain anyway.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
I'm just pulling your chain anyway.
Really? Because I was completely serious.
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If you bend aluminum, it can be straightened. If you crack aluminum, it can be welded. We have an aluminum welder at our auto shop and I have seen several parts including body panels repaired so your theory of not being able to repair aluminum is flawed. As far as carbon goes, sure you can patch it but what about the layup? The strands of carbon fiber are "laid" down in certain lengths and patterns to give it strength so just patching a hole only fixes the cosmetic damage but leaves the affected part more susceptible to a catastrophic failure. Sure an aluminum or even steel bike could be damaged beyond repair but the same amount of force that noodled the metal frame would surely wreck a carbon frame as well.
Aluminum frames tend to use drawn tubes which are heat treated. Straightening might require a post-heat treat to eliminate work hardening. Welding on thin-walled drawn tubing is probably not recommended to fix cracks, especially since the frame is load bearing (body panels on cars are not load bearing). The weld itself will form a stress concentration that might lead to more cracking, and will probably require a heat treat as well.

When carbon is repaired, I believe the repair strategy is to cut out the damaged area and re-build the carbon tube structure with new pre-preg carbon fiber sheet. The orientation of the carbon strands is such that the repair is over-built; the intent being that the repaired area is more than strong enough for the frame location. Last I checked, it cost about $400 to repair a carbon frame and most of the time is a pretty routine repair.
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I find it interesting that Wound-Up recommends replacing their forks after 8 years (or 40,000 miles):

FAQ on Carbon Fiber Bike Forks From Wound Up Composites, SLC
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Originally Posted by Fogre
I find it interesting that Wound-Up recommends replacing their forks after 8 years (or 40,000 miles):

FAQ on Carbon Fiber Bike Forks From Wound Up Composites, SLC
Lawyers told them to say that. In the same paragraph they note that their carbon forks should outlast aluminum, steel, ti, whatever.

Wound Up[SUP]TM[/SUP] forks withstand fatigue heroically, and should last much longer than steel, aluminum or titanium forks. Because of their unique filament-wound construction, they should also outlast other carbon forks. While exact lifespans are specific to a given rider and her or his riding habits, we usually see our forks lasting for more than a decade with fairly heavy use. However, since we cannot know your personal riding patterns, we cannot specifically endorse your using it beyond eight years. Or, if you like, 40,000 miles. That's why we offer our courtesy replacement program. If it's old enough for you to ask, don't risk it!
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Originally Posted by Dan333SP
Lawyers told them to say that.
Wonder why
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I told my wife the carbon fiber bike only last 3 years so that I can get a new bike every 3 years.

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Yes, carbon fiber becomes brittle and dangerous after 1 year or 5000 miles, whichever comes first. That's why I'm opening a carbon fiber disposal facility to keep all those unsafe frames off the street. Just send your used road CF bikes to Bean's Bike Disposal with a $50 handling fee, and I'll see to it they don't become a threat to some unsuspecting rider.
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This summer is year 2. I need to get some serious miles in...
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Yes, carbon fiber becomes brittle and dangerous after 1 year or 5000 miles, whichever comes first. That's why I'm opening a carbon fiber disposal facility to keep all those unsafe frames off the street. Just send your used road CF bikes to Bean's Bike Disposal with a $50 handling fee, and I'll see to it they don't become a threat to some unsuspecting rider.
In recognition of your "selfless" service, you can expect about zip. Remember, no good deed shall go unpunished.
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Carbon fiber bikes tend to get ridden more.
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If your store your crabon bike near other aluminum bikes, be careful, the aluminum can catch the failure virus from the crabon bike. Keep them far apart.
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If your store your crabon bike near other aluminum bikes, be careful, the aluminum can catch the failure virus from the crabon bike. Keep them far apart.
This is the truth! Aluminum frames are highly "corrosive" where it comes to it carbon and will insist that they die a premature death.
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Originally Posted by cale
Carbon fiber bikes tend to get ridden more.
Post your proof. Give me a google link.
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Post your proof. Give me a google link.
No proof for you.
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In recognition of your "selfless" service, you can expect about ZIPP. Remember, no good deed shall go unpunished.
He never said anything about wheel recycling. That's my line of business, so send em my way.
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So I shouldn't have bought that past years model on clearance and then stored it for the winter... only have 1 year left to ride it
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Originally Posted by cale
This is the truth! Aluminum frames are highly "corrosive" where it comes to it carbon and will insist that they die a premature death.
And DONT forget to put some sort of drip pan under these two wheeled toxic waste dumps. The stuff dripping off the frames will burn a hole in your floor.
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So if a carbon road bike is only good for three years, a cyclocross one should only be good for two at the most. Right? That means I'm due for an upgrade, er... replacement. My wife wouldn't want me to risk my life on a two year old bike.
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So if a carbon road bike is only good for three years, a cyclocross one should only be good for two at the most. Right? That means I'm due for an upgrade, er... replacement. My wife wouldn't want me to risk my life on a two year old bike.
A friend of mine races in pro cyclocross events across the country. She typically comes to each race with 4 or 5 brand new bikes. Each lap she will pit and swap bikes. The old ones are immediately discarded, as they are unsafe for any future usage. Some other riders even have new frame handups halfway around the lap because they don't trust their carbon to last a full lap at race speed. There are still dozens of catastrophic injuries in every professional cross race due to failed frames. It's really a sad story.
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