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Old 05-29-15, 01:59 PM
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Oh my, a carbon thread. What won't they think of next?
Is your finger poised over the "Lock" button ??
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Originally Posted by Dan333SP
A friend of mine races in pro cyclocross events across the country. She typically comes to each race with 4 or 5 brand new bikes. Each lap she will pit and swap bikes. The old ones are immediately discarded, as they are unsafe for any future usage. Some other riders even have new frame handups halfway around the lap because they don't trust their carbon to last a full lap at race speed. There are still dozens of catastrophic injuries in every professional cross race due to failed frames. It's really a sad story.
What you are saying is that the shop should have given me a new frame aftet the test ride, right?
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Originally Posted by FrozenK
What you are saying is that the shop should have given me a new frame aftet the test ride, right?
Before the test ride to strap to your back in case the chainstays detonate 5 miles in. Pretty standard. Maybe time for a new LBS?
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Originally Posted by Dan333SP
Before the test ride to strap to your back in case the chainstays detonate 5 miles in. Pretty standard. Maybe time for a new LBS?
It sounds like it.
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How about instead of shouting to everyone else that they're wrong, why doesn't someone post some of the solutions from one of the, apparently numerous, threads that have already been made about this topic?
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Originally Posted by jeffersonduang
Recently a friend of mine told me the carbon bike only can be used about 3 years. After 3 years ,the frame will be broken.

I haven't bought a carbon bike, yet.

I want to know how long a carbon road bike can be ride?
Complete and utter nonsense. I have a Look 585, 9 years old, over 43,000 miles.
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Originally Posted by bikepro
Complete and utter nonsense. I have a Look 585, 9 years old, over 43,000 miles.
While I agree it's nonsense, I think you need to ride more.

43k miles is 3 years for me.

Just friendly teasing.
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I'll play ! I have two Zipp2001 from 1993 (22 yrs. old) with one at a tad over 63,000 miles and the other at 21,000 full carbon beam bikes. I also have a set of Tri-spokes with over 40,000 miles on them. They are still ridden each week and not worried about failure.
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Originally Posted by jeffersonduang
Recently a friend of mine told me the carbon bike only can be used about 3 years. After 3 years ,the frame will be broken.

I haven't bought a carbon bike, yet.

I want to know how long a carbon road bike can be ride?
Black Rhinos are going extinct largely because people in China, your country, think that the horn of the black rhino is some sort of magic viagra because you know a hort stands up and is hard. Sadly for the poor black rhino and the rest of the world that will be deprived of them, it's not the case. I wouldn't put much thought into what your friend thinks. Carbon fiber bikes aren't some magic new idea. There's lots of data on the topic.

https://www.livescience.com/33605-rhi...-medicine.html
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Originally Posted by BoSoxYacht
While I agree it's nonsense, I think you need to ride more.

43k miles is 3 years for me.

Just friendly teasing.
Actually, since I retired in 2009, I've been close to 10,000 miles a year. I try to ride every day, but this year it's been raining a lot.
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Does this mean that carbon fibre airplanes like a Cirrus SR-22 can only be flown for 3 years too?
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Originally Posted by eyewannabike
Black Rhinos are going extinct largely because people in China, your country, think that the horn of the black rhino is some sort of magic viagra because you know a hort stands up and is hard. Sadly for the poor black rhino and the rest of the world that will be deprived of them, it's not the case. I wouldn't put much thought into what your friend thinks. Carbon fiber bikes aren't some magic new idea. There's lots of data on the topic.

Chinese Folk Medicine Driving Rhinos to Extinction
Eegads, dude. Chill. It's a bike forum. Are you to blame for the atom bomb? Keep some perspective.
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Originally Posted by bikepro
Actually, since I retired in 2009, I've been close to 10,000 miles a year. I try to ride every day, but this year it's been raining a lot.
I was just clowning around with you.

This year I'm on pace for 10k miles, but that is far below the past few years. Life got busy, and my dad is battling cancer. Some days it's hard to find the will to ride.
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I have at least 50,000 miles on mine, still perfect. I never babied it, either. Carbon/epoxy laminate is the most fatigue resistant material that I know of. You may not have noticed, but it's the new go-to material for commercial aircraft wings.
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1 year tops, when your done with it give me a call and i will dispose of it.
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene
Quite a very long time. One reason that CF is such a concern for enviro reasons as it's not at all easily recyclable.
Really CF is a concern for environmental reasons? Burying a couple pounds of CF every 5 yrs is going to harm the planet somehow? How much gas and oil does the average person burn in 5 yrs?
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Originally Posted by stockae92
I told my wife the carbon fiber bike only last 3 years so that I can get a new bike every 3 years.

j/k
A friend I know that replaces her husband every 3 years.

He or she also jumps off the Brooklyn Bridge so why he is worth quoting?

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Really CF is a concern for environmental reasons? Burying a couple pounds of CF every 5 yrs is going to harm the planet somehow? How much gas and oil does the average person burn in 5 yrs?
I didn't say the issue was specific to only bikes. If you care, an article on the issue:
The Dirty Secret Of Carbon Fiber - Science News - redOrbit
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In recognition of your "selfless" service, you can expect about zip. Remember, no good deed shall go unpunished.
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene
I didn't say the issue was specific to only bikes. If you care, an article on the issue:
The Dirty Secret Of Carbon Fiber - Science News - redOrbit
Mostly sensationalist drivel. Relative to other wasteful practices, the use of carbon fiber and subsequent storage of inert used products in a landfill is insignificant. Sometimes you need to pick your battles...
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Originally Posted by dvdslw
If you bend aluminum, it can be straightened. If you crack aluminum, it can be welded. We have an aluminum welder at our auto shop and I have seen several parts including body panels repaired so your theory of not being able to repair aluminum is flawed. As far as carbon goes, sure you can patch it but what about the layup? The strands of carbon fiber are "laid" down in certain lengths and patterns to give it strength so just patching a hole only fixes the cosmetic damage but leaves the affected part more susceptible to a catastrophic failure. Sure an aluminum or even steel bike could be damaged beyond repair but the same amount of force that noodled the metal frame would surely wreck a carbon frame as well.
Calfree sands a bit past the broken area on carbon frames to see the underlying layup of carbon. Plus, they've been designing carbon frames for quite a while, so I imagine that the repair team has a sense of which way the fibers need to be oriented. Top tubes are loaded mainly in tension; downtubes are loaded mainly in compression, and with that information along with the fact that carbon fiber is stronger in tension rather than in compression, one can determine to a good extent which way the fibers need to be laid.

Also, you can probably weld aluminum body panels but I wouldn't want some structural part to be welded by someone in a shop. Aluminum is generally heat treated after welding. I don't see many shops offering to repair aluminum bikes, which tells me that it's probably ot practical.
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Few rode carbon in the 80's. I had a Vitus Carbonne 9 with full C Record in 1986. The glue failed and the seatpost broke; I tossed it into the dump

I have a very early 90's Kestral that still rides fine. It is a 62 Cm frame and I had it at 16.5 lbs with tubulars back in the day. It will never fail.
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Where can I find the expiration date on the frame?
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Originally Posted by JGM411
Where can I find the expiration date on the frame?
I believe its a born on date. The new math in school can help figure the expire date quickly sorta like n+1. Once you have one its time for another.
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I wonder if lifespan has less to do with material used and more to do with design? Do manufacturers design carbon bikes with the intent that they will last a long time?
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