What is the brightest USB rechargeable tail light for day time riding for around $50?
06-01-15, 06:47 AM
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I wanted something that would not only be bright, but shine light directly into the eyes of drivers to get their attention. The lower, larger LED is canted to compensate for seat tube angle; this effective directs the beam pattern directly aft. That makes it not only bright, but intense. For what it's worth, I had a guy drive up beside me one day and he asked me what light I was using, cause it was the brightest light he'd ever seen on a bike.
Now, a Dinotte is easily brighter. But it's not nearly as compact, the mounting isn't as easy, and it's rather ungainly. I think the Knog solution combines great aesthetics with excellent functionality. For me, it's what I like best.
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I was going to get a Hotshot but the wide angle view wasn't as good as others. I wanted sufficient side(90deg) and 60% viewing angle visibility. Not just straight back. This is where the Hotshots do not do as well as others in this price range.
I wanted the NiteRider Solas but it lacked a battery charge indicator. I ended up getting the upgrade to the Solas, the Sentinel. Yeah, it has the lazer line markers that help at night only but I got it more for the brightness and wide view of the Solas AND the battery indicator on power off. Have seen them for mid to low $40s. Got a sale at LBS for 20% off and grabbed 3 of them for all the families bikes for $38 each. Long lasting and USB chargeable. The Sentinel and Solas are very visible from the off angles and looks very visible from a long way back.
And yes, the Sentinel can be hooked on a saddle bag or on its post mount.
Frank
I wanted the NiteRider Solas but it lacked a battery charge indicator. I ended up getting the upgrade to the Solas, the Sentinel. Yeah, it has the lazer line markers that help at night only but I got it more for the brightness and wide view of the Solas AND the battery indicator on power off. Have seen them for mid to low $40s. Got a sale at LBS for 20% off and grabbed 3 of them for all the families bikes for $38 each. Long lasting and USB chargeable. The Sentinel and Solas are very visible from the off angles and looks very visible from a long way back.
And yes, the Sentinel can be hooked on a saddle bag or on its post mount.
Frank
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06-01-15, 07:11 AM
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Hard to argue w/ that Serfas: I have one of those on one of my bikes, and every time I turn it on I have to remember to look away or else I'm temporarily blinded! It is astonishingly bright. But agree w/ other posters who are unimpressed w/ the battery life.
I actually prefer the Niterider Solas in terms of flexibility/functionality & safety (it seems to possess a wider angle of visibility, nearly 180°), but if maximum brightness is your primary concern I don't think the Solas can quite beat out the Serfas. It'll put up a good fight though.
I actually prefer the Niterider Solas in terms of flexibility/functionality & safety (it seems to possess a wider angle of visibility, nearly 180°), but if maximum brightness is your primary concern I don't think the Solas can quite beat out the Serfas. It'll put up a good fight though.
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Naturally, none of the bicycle tailight manufacturers provide this spec.
06-01-15, 07:34 AM
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Bob Ross,
No idea. When I read the review of the Solas (or was it the Sentinel) they said it didn't. I bet they share the same board and so when the Sentinel got it, so did the Solas. Since they made no other changes to packaging, you might have purchase older stock with your newer Solas.
That would be my guess...
Either way, the Solas/Sentinel tailight is a great light!!
Frank
No idea. When I read the review of the Solas (or was it the Sentinel) they said it didn't. I bet they share the same board and so when the Sentinel got it, so did the Solas. Since they made no other changes to packaging, you might have purchase older stock with your newer Solas.
That would be my guess...
Either way, the Solas/Sentinel tailight is a great light!!
Frank
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Another vote here for the full size Cygolite Hotshot. I run it side by side on my wife's commuting bike with a superflash and the difference is significant. I bought it after noticing one on another rider's bike from about 1/4 mile away in the full sunlight. I chased him down just to ask what it was and ordered one right up. Run time is great, and multiple flash options give you control over style and frequency of the flashes. My only beef with it is the limited side effectiveness...but that'll be true with any of the long throw LED blinkies.
I borrow it and clip it onto my saddle bag when I need a good light on my road bike. It's plenty small and light weight, especially considering it's strength.
-Jeremy
I borrow it and clip it onto my saddle bag when I need a good light on my road bike. It's plenty small and light weight, especially considering it's strength.
-Jeremy
I was going to get a Hotshot but the wide angle view wasn't as good as others. I wanted sufficient side(90deg) and 60% viewing angle visibility. Not just straight back. This is where the Hotshots do not do as well as others in this price range.
I wanted the NiteRider Solas but it lacked a battery charge indicator. I ended up getting the upgrade to the Solas, the Sentinel. Yeah, it has the lazer line markers that help at night only but I got it more for the brightness and wide view of the Solas AND the battery indicator on power off. Have seen them for mid to low $40s. Got a sale at LBS for 20% off and grabbed 3 of them for all the families bikes for $38 each. Long lasting and USB chargeable. The Sentinel and Solas are very visible from the off angles and looks very visible from a long way back.
And yes, the Sentinel can be hooked on a saddle bag or on its post mount.
Frank
I wanted the NiteRider Solas but it lacked a battery charge indicator. I ended up getting the upgrade to the Solas, the Sentinel. Yeah, it has the lazer line markers that help at night only but I got it more for the brightness and wide view of the Solas AND the battery indicator on power off. Have seen them for mid to low $40s. Got a sale at LBS for 20% off and grabbed 3 of them for all the families bikes for $38 each. Long lasting and USB chargeable. The Sentinel and Solas are very visible from the off angles and looks very visible from a long way back.
And yes, the Sentinel can be hooked on a saddle bag or on its post mount.
Frank
I posted this on a "Best rear light for $25" thread:
Yes, the beam on a Cygolite Hotshot is quite narrow. But it's as wide as the road at about 50 to 75 feet back. ( And closer than that, it's very bright from any direction, no beam needed.) At a few hundred feet, it's way wider than the road. So cars will see that bright blink even if the road is curvy. That focused beam makes it very visible on cloudy days, too.
And there's some diverted light at wide angles, even up to 90 degrees, that's bright enough for close range cars on side roads to see.
I have mine aimed slightly downward, and if I look back, I can see the pool of red light on the road behind me. That's bright!
Side lighting
Here's the Hotshot laid on it's side, exactly horizontal, at an inch above the paper. The brightest light shows as yellow, but it's actually red.
The bright side light aimed at the camera is visible, and the other side lighting that hits the paper is pretty bright, in a checkerboard pattern. You can see the central cone of bright light is already hitting the paper just 6 or 8 inches from the light, so it has a decent spread.
This side lighting is just diverted light, via prisms, from the main beam. There's only one LED.
WARNING: if you push the On button in the store, when the light is still in it's box, don't aim it at your face...
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06-01-15, 08:44 AM
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Side view is a bit of a lie. What does it look like without it leaning against a wall?
You would only get a small dim red dot.
Sentinel off angle views:
you can see the Solas and Hotshot here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyE9wzFrDAQ
They seem pretty similar straight back.
Still looking for off angle review of hotshot. Most claim only a 10 deg. beam width which will do nothing at intersections for you.
You would only get a small dim red dot.
Sentinel off angle views:
you can see the Solas and Hotshot here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyE9wzFrDAQ
They seem pretty similar straight back.
Still looking for off angle review of hotshot. Most claim only a 10 deg. beam width which will do nothing at intersections for you.
06-01-15, 09:17 AM
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They do a nice review of the hotshot and Solas here: The Best Bicycle Taillights of 2013 « Stack Exchange Bicycles Blog
h an affordable cost
A single Cygolite Hotshot is ample light for the casual rider.
The cheapest rechargeable taillight is the Cygolite Hotshot, and it's still every bit the great light it was in last year's review. Some of the newer lights offer additional improvements, especially in terms of off-angle visibility, but you still won't go wrong with the Hotshot. It's currently $28 on Amazon, and probably about $35 at your local bike shop. For a few bucks more, you could get the NiteRider Solas 2W ($35 on Amazon) which is very similar, but solves the Hotshot's off-angle visibility problem with its diffusing lens design. Personally, I think that if you're just going to buy one the NiteRider Solas is the better choice due to its better light spread, but both are great lights.
A balanced setup for safety up close and afar
According to some safety research users on the Bicycles Stack Exchange site found when pondering whether flashing or steady lights are safer, a flashing light catches your attention faster, but a steady-burn light is easier to judge distance by. If you have room in your budget for two lights, it's a good idea to set up one on steady-burn and another on flashing mode, and physically separate them by at least 1 foot so that they don't just look like a pulsating steady light from a distance.
I set up my bike with the Vis 180 in steady burn, mounted on my seatpost, and a home-made high-intensity flashing light (which I have a blog post written up about but haven't gotten pictures for yet) on the rear of the rack. This is an excellent setup but certainly overkill - you don't really need a $100 light nor a custom made one, and you can achieve the same effect with other lights.
I set up my friend's bike with the Cygolite Hotshot on the rack and the NiteRider Solas on the seatpost. The Solas has better side-visibility, so I mounted it on the seat post where it would be seen by side traffic. The Solas flashes as the attention-grabber and the Hotshot - which has better straight-on, long-distance brightness - is on steady burn. This setup is also handy because the Hotshot's brightness can be finely adjusted, so you can dim it at night or when riding in a group. The Solas + Hotshot combo would run you about $65, and is probably the best two-light deal you'll find, but any of the other rechargeable lights would work well in this application, too.
The recommended balanced setup: NiteRider Solas 2W on top in flashing mode, and Cygolite Hotshot on the rack on steady-burn mode.
My bike's setup with the Vis 180 on top and the high-intensity custom-built LED on the bottom
Recommended setup from the side. Note that the NiteRider Solas 2W (top) has better off-axis visibility than the Cygolite Hotshot (bottom).
The ideal all-out setup
The Best Bicycle Taillights of 2013
h an affordable cost
A single Cygolite Hotshot is ample light for the casual rider.A balanced setup for safety up close and afar
According to some safety research users on the Bicycles Stack Exchange site found when pondering whether flashing or steady lights are safer, a flashing light catches your attention faster, but a steady-burn light is easier to judge distance by. If you have room in your budget for two lights, it's a good idea to set up one on steady-burn and another on flashing mode, and physically separate them by at least 1 foot so that they don't just look like a pulsating steady light from a distance.
I set up my bike with the Vis 180 in steady burn, mounted on my seatpost, and a home-made high-intensity flashing light (which I have a blog post written up about but haven't gotten pictures for yet) on the rear of the rack. This is an excellent setup but certainly overkill - you don't really need a $100 light nor a custom made one, and you can achieve the same effect with other lights.
I set up my friend's bike with the Cygolite Hotshot on the rack and the NiteRider Solas on the seatpost. The Solas has better side-visibility, so I mounted it on the seat post where it would be seen by side traffic. The Solas flashes as the attention-grabber and the Hotshot - which has better straight-on, long-distance brightness - is on steady burn. This setup is also handy because the Hotshot's brightness can be finely adjusted, so you can dim it at night or when riding in a group. The Solas + Hotshot combo would run you about $65, and is probably the best two-light deal you'll find, but any of the other rechargeable lights would work well in this application, too.
The recommended balanced setup: NiteRider Solas 2W on top in flashing mode, and Cygolite Hotshot on the rack on steady-burn mode.
My bike's setup with the Vis 180 on top and the high-intensity custom-built LED on the bottom
Recommended setup from the side. Note that the NiteRider Solas 2W (top) has better off-axis visibility than the Cygolite Hotshot (bottom).
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For that matter, the Serfas Thunderbolt UTL-6 ot Moon lightshield defender 60 or 80 are also nice tailights. Brighter than Hotshot too with better off axis light.
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I considered getting it as a second tail light, since it works great when it's low on a seat stay. But the High Flash setting is only 2 hours 30 minutes. That's not even one whole ride.
06-01-15, 07:21 PM
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06-01-15, 07:33 PM
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On the HotShot do you have to use the "OSP" feature or can you just use presets? I think I have narrowed it down to the Hot Shot or the Solas.
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Light & Motion Hi Vis 180 (not the micro) when there's an auction on ebay-- just saw one go for 48.99 NIB. Used tends to run about $10 cheaper.
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That Bontrager Flare R looks great. Might get one to supplement my Sentinel.
Runtime is one reason why I love the Solas/Sentinel
Ruin time is as follows:
1st Flash: 18 hours
2nd Flash: 7 Hours
High Steady: 4:30 hours (measured Solas at 5:22 hrs - https://www.bikelightdatabase.com/niterider/solas2w/)
Low Steady: 36 hours
The Flare seems to have a good long run time as well:
Day Steady 4.25hrs,
night steady 21hrs,
day flash 5.75hrs,
night flash 23hrs
Cygolite Hotshot is nice too at a measured 4.75 hours as well(https://www.bikelightdatabase.com/cygolite/hotshot/). I understand in flashing mode, the Cygolite is nice and long too (reports up to 120 hours - now that is long!![https://bicycles.blogoverflow.com/201...view/#hotshot]).
Not many that last that long - at least when I was looking at taillights.
I know Cygolite hasn't released a new taillight in a year or so. I would love if they could get the brightness of the hotshot with much improved side angle viewing combined with their already stellar battery life - of course in an affordable pricepoint. I know, you cannot put a price on a life saving item but it would only help.
When I was looking at lights it never dawned on me to think how long a ride was. I was merely looking for the longest lasting light with the brightest output that I could afford. Maybe I got a little lucky with the Sentinel as far as it is both wide angled, bright and long lasting.
I think I might want to purchase a Flare R next unless something better comes along as a second light. Thinking of commuting from work at 5:30 PM and I want all the visibility I can get. Very trafficy time to ride home and I have to take some major roads to do it.
Frank
Runtime is one reason why I love the Solas/Sentinel
Ruin time is as follows:
1st Flash: 18 hours
2nd Flash: 7 Hours
High Steady: 4:30 hours (measured Solas at 5:22 hrs - https://www.bikelightdatabase.com/niterider/solas2w/)
Low Steady: 36 hours
The Flare seems to have a good long run time as well:
Day Steady 4.25hrs,
night steady 21hrs,
day flash 5.75hrs,
night flash 23hrs
Cygolite Hotshot is nice too at a measured 4.75 hours as well(https://www.bikelightdatabase.com/cygolite/hotshot/). I understand in flashing mode, the Cygolite is nice and long too (reports up to 120 hours - now that is long!![https://bicycles.blogoverflow.com/201...view/#hotshot]).
Not many that last that long - at least when I was looking at taillights.
I know Cygolite hasn't released a new taillight in a year or so. I would love if they could get the brightness of the hotshot with much improved side angle viewing combined with their already stellar battery life - of course in an affordable pricepoint. I know, you cannot put a price on a life saving item but it would only help.
When I was looking at lights it never dawned on me to think how long a ride was. I was merely looking for the longest lasting light with the brightest output that I could afford. Maybe I got a little lucky with the Sentinel as far as it is both wide angled, bright and long lasting.
I think I might want to purchase a Flare R next unless something better comes along as a second light. Thinking of commuting from work at 5:30 PM and I want all the visibility I can get. Very trafficy time to ride home and I have to take some major roads to do it.
Frank
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need to be careful with the Knogs.
They've got a bunch of different 'Blinder' models... ranging from the Blinder 1, the Blinder 4, the Blinder Road R, the Blinder 4V.
There are significant differences:
Blinder 1 (rear red) - 11 lumens
Blinder 4 (rear red) - 44 lumens
Blinder 4V (rear red) - 44 lumens
Blinder Road R (rear red) - 70 lumens
I run a blinder 4 & blinder 1 on my CAAD10... they're relatively bright. brighter than most of the AAA battery powered ones I had previously.
I like the mounting system the most and as long as you're not stretching them out too far... they're fine (for reference I've got 5 or 6 blinder lights, and have only snapped one... and it had been wrapped around a spacer stack for a couple of months prior to it snapping).
If you've got a link for the Blinder Road R for $30.. post it up... I'll happily snag some at that price. Generally that's Blinder 4 price range.
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You guys who are using the Knog Blinder or Solas: Will these work with an under-seat bag? Like: Are their mounting angles adjustable, so that I could angle them so that the beam would be on the best plane for visibility, if I mounted 'em on my bag? Or, are they seat-stay mountable?
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You guys who are using the Knog Blinder or Solas: Will these work with an under-seat bag? Like: Are their mounting angles adjustable, so that I could angle them so that the beam would be on the best plane for visibility, if I mounted 'em on my bag? Or, are they seat-stay mountable?
The knog will not work on a seat bag...
It might work on a seat stay if the stay is wide enough. unfortunately the limitation is really the minimum diameter number of 22mm..
The angle probably wouldn't work on a seat stay as it's not adjustable (at least on the blinder 4)
06-02-15, 10:33 AM
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Cyglolite came out w/ the Holeshot Micro a little while ago.
The spec for the LED is the same as the original ; but the
Micro's optics are a bit different. Making the Micro appear
brighter with a wider spread. Price is about the same if I recall.
Holeshot SL(L) & Micro(R) by 1nterceptor, on Flickr
Holeshot Micro(l) - SL(r)Wall by 1nterceptor, on Flickr
Micro(l)-SL(r) Facing by 1nterceptor, on Flickr
The spec for the LED is the same as the original ; but the
Micro's optics are a bit different. Making the Micro appear
brighter with a wider spread. Price is about the same if I recall.
Holeshot SL(L) & Micro(R) by 1nterceptor, on FlickrHoleshot Micro(l) - SL(r)Wall by 1nterceptor, on FlickrMicro(l)-SL(r) Facing by 1nterceptor, on Flickr
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But the micro Hotshot lasts half as long, if memory serves
Solas/Sentinel has a clip to attach but is not angle adjustable.
The mount to the seat post IS angle adjustable.
Solas/Sentinel has a clip to attach but is not angle adjustable.
The mount to the seat post IS angle adjustable.
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The Hotshot Micro is smaller; so yes the battery is smaller as well.
The mounting is also different; using a band like the Knog's I guess.
Don't think it can clip to saddlebags, rack bags, etc. For the weight
weenies, yes it's lighter than the original Hotshot.
Mar 2015, NYC by 1nterceptor, on Flickr
The mounting is also different; using a band like the Knog's I guess.
Don't think it can clip to saddlebags, rack bags, etc. For the weight
weenies, yes it's lighter than the original Hotshot.
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The knog will not work on a seat bag...
It might work on a seat stay if the stay is wide enough. unfortunately the limitation is really the minimum diameter number of 22mm..
The angle probably wouldn't work on a seat stay as it's not adjustable (at least on the blinder 4)
It might work on a seat stay if the stay is wide enough. unfortunately the limitation is really the minimum diameter number of 22mm..
The angle probably wouldn't work on a seat stay as it's not adjustable (at least on the blinder 4)
I've been wanting a good bright daytime tail light ever since I started riding; and while a lot of the light seem to offer clip attachments, to clip to a seat bag, it seems that none offer a way to align the light vertically, so as to be worth a darn- especially in the daytime.