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    Gunnar considering a Sport or Roadie but not sure?

    I have given up on the search for a Itallian lugged frame & fork, as the more I look the more misinformation I get, or promissed call backs never come.

    Actually now considering a Gunnar with Steel Crown Lugged Raked Forward Fork, as in talking with factory that is in WI. They say 4-6 weeks for delivery.

    What I would like opinions on is I am an old recreartional rider. Seeking comfort, not racing at the from of some pack of riders. But I do like going fast. Will be headed to Alpine County, CA for another DEATH RIDE in 2016.

    The two Gunnar Frames I am considring are the Roadie, or the Sports. Any suggestions? Please post photo of your if they are recent aquired.

    As it stands I am honestly leaning toward Ultegra 11 speed Group of Campy Centaur Red/Black Carbon 10 Speed Group. Love the look of that Campy Carbon.

    BTW is 1" Thread Fork Possible, and what is Gunnars Stand BB THREAD?

    Personal Gunner expierence input please. I am leaning thisway as Gunnar isin the USA, so should there be any problems, if worsts come to worst I will drive to Waterford,WI to deal with it directly.
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    I have a Sport with the Gunnar steel fork. Easy to build, regular English bb, etc. The geometries of the Roadie and Sport are quite different. IMO the Sport would be more comfortable due to the taller headtube and the ability to use fatter tires. If you already have a bike that fits, there is good info on their site as to how to pick the correct size Gunnar.

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    A 1" threaded fork is like hens teeth. You'd have to go vintage to get one. But the Gunner is 1-1/8" if I'm not mistaken.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shelbyfv View Post
    I have a Sport with the Gunnar steel fork. Easy to build, regular English bb, etc. The geometries of the Roadie and Sport are quite different. IMO the Sport would be more comfortable due to the taller headtube and the ability to use fatter tires. If you already have a bike that fits, there is good info on their site as to how to pick the correct size Gunnar.

    I agree with this. What I might do, however, is pay the custom geometry charge and have them close up the wide spacing for the brakes unless you want to be able to run 30C tires. I'd also go for the carbon fork option painted to the color you choose.

    Gunnar makes great frames. The think to watch for is their conservative approach - conservative to the point of over doing it. Managing that with them and you will get a great bike. I'm a larger rider and they went and oversized the oversized tubing to the point where the frame is incredibly stiff - stiffer than I need to be. Same with the fork. The fork rides well, but it's heavy. My other bike is a custom stainless steel Anderson frame with an Enve 2.0 fork and I *really* like that combination. I'm planning on converting the Gunnar fork to carbon this summer and think that will really make it a sweet ride. It's got a Flexlogic Ritchey seat post and a set of carbon bars to help further increase the comfort. Wheels are HED Belgium C2 tubular rims with 25c tires. Bike is fast and fun to ride.

    I built a Crosshairs for both my wife and I several years ago. We've ridden the heck out of those bikes and they are fun and responsive frames. We run them with wider tires for dirt and gravel trails. Sometimes I wish I had bought the standard Sport frame instead and done that, I think it would have been just about the idea geometry for our kind of riding. For what you describe, I think you'd be much happier with the Sport over the Roadie. I wish I'd gotten the Sport frame over the Crosshairs for it's slightly longer chain stays that would have given it more stable handling over a long haul than the Crosshairs. Quick handling bikes become a problem for me because I have long legs, long torso and proportionately short arms making a quick bike quicker for me.

    I have mine set up with Ultegra 11 speed (6800) running an 11-28 SRAM cassette (I like the gear spacing better than Shimano's). That's a really nice set up on that bike and I like it a lot.

    I believe the standard bottom bracket is english threaded. The standard Shimano BB's work great.

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    Another question was will the New Shimano 6800 Bakes work with both the Roadie, or Sport. I am leaning more to the Sport and will run a maxumum of 28mm Tires.
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    I would recommend the Sport over the Roadie. The Sport is a much more versatile frame. It has mounts for fenders and racks, and clearance for larger tires. It has longer chainstays, allowing for a more comfortable ride and the use of panniers. It has a taller headtube, allowing higher handlebars if you desire.

    I have owned a Gunnar Sport and Crosshairs, which I both sold, but still have a Waterford RST-22, which has a geometry similar to the Sport. The main reason I sold the Sport is the frame was a size too large for me, and it basically duplicated my Waterford, which fits me perfectly. The Waterford also has canti brakes, which I prefer. The Crosshairs geometry was not a good fit for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheManShow View Post
    Another question was will the New Shimano 6800 Bakes work with both the Roadie, or Sport. I am leaning more to the Sport and will run a maxumum of 28mm Tires.
    But I *really* think you want the Sport geometry over the Roadie geometry. As an old guy like me, I found it much better to move off of the aggressive road bike geometry onto the Sport geometry that is much more like the old Grand Tour Race geometry (TdF geometry back just before carbon) bikes used to have. The slightly longer chain stays and the more upright positioning will be much more comfortable over long rides and will require less rider input (i.e. less core body adjustments) but will still have a very sporty frame. This much closer to a road race frame than it is to a touring style frame and will still be quite snappy in handling. I think it would qualify as a randonneur style frame. I have an older (circa 1985) Basso racing frame and the Sport is not dissimilar to that frame.

    You won't be able to use the Ultegra brakes on the sport. The reach is too long. You could fix this with the custom geometry charge (probably what I would do - but I have other fit issues to accommodate). Also there are some very nice dual pivot long reach brakes from places like Velo Orange that could work.

    That is my major problem with the Sport too. I won't ever run fenders but larger tires might be fun on occasion. I think I'd probably go with the Velo Orange brakes and call it a day since I have a full out race road bike. That said, when I went to the 6800 group on my road bike, the surprise in the group was the brakes. They are really nice and modulate so well. I'd bet that part of that is because of the new levers/cabling. The Velo Orange brakes look very stiff and I think they'd probably work just as well. The Tekro long reach brakes are pretty good too but the Velo Orange ones look better to me.


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