What's generally accepted as the "best" road hubs?
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What's generally accepted as the "best" road hubs?
Engagement is obviously less of a concern with road than mountain bikes... I would think long term low maintenance reliability would be a big deciding factor.
I'm sure Chris King R45's are great but their claimed required maintenance is pretty absurd compared to others.
DT 240's? Dura Ace? Cost no object, I'd rather spend $400 once than $200 twice and deal with the hassle when the first one breaks.
I'm sure Chris King R45's are great but their claimed required maintenance is pretty absurd compared to others.
DT 240's? Dura Ace? Cost no object, I'd rather spend $400 once than $200 twice and deal with the hassle when the first one breaks.
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For my money (which admittedly isn't much!), Ultegra gives you the most bang for your buck and anything above that level you experience the law of diminishing returns.
I mean nothing at the Ultegra level or above is going to "break", so you're talking huge price increases for tiny (subjective?) improvements.
It's polished a little better, it's a little bit lighter, the bearings last 80,000 miles instead of 70,000, etc.
This should open it up for some good dissenting opinions!
I mean nothing at the Ultegra level or above is going to "break", so you're talking huge price increases for tiny (subjective?) improvements.
It's polished a little better, it's a little bit lighter, the bearings last 80,000 miles instead of 70,000, etc.
This should open it up for some good dissenting opinions!
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I think it depends on your priorities. Durability is important to me, so I avoid aluminum axles and cassette bodies. That makes White Industry hubs my favourite. If weight is very important to you, perhaps Tune or Alchemy? They are very light but not excessively fragile. If you want to save some money, don't care about weight so much and are happy with 32h wheels, Shimano hubs are very nice.
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Can you define BEST with these parameters?
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Specific
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Time-bound
Thanks.
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Can't argue with that. If only I could fit a cassette on the rear.
I have 1 wheel with a Campy 10 Record rear hub. Very nice.
I have 1 wheel with a Campy 10 Record rear hub. Very nice.
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That being said cassette rears are the standard which means Shimano with cup/cone design. I own 6700, RS30 and RS81 front and rear.
Smooth, solid dependable hubs that I can overhaul on a regular schedule that are also affordable.
If someone else is picking up the tab: DA 9000 please in C24, C35 and C50 rim depths.............both clincher and tubular.
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What exactly would be the difference between the worst hubs and the best hubs? [Not counting overly-fancy high-maintenance obsessive-compulsive ones]
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For the record the most recent wheelset I had built up had a defective Ultegra rear hub that I could never get fixed, and another customer at the shop I frequent also got a defective rear hub. I replaced it with a Chris King R45 which has been fine so far. I've also had good luck with DT240s.
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How smooth are the bearings out the box, how precise are the flange spacings, spoke hole drillings/chamfering, how tough is the shell material and the axles?
Over years of use how well are the bearings sealed for adverse conditions and how are they serviced/adjusted/replaced?
How many times can the same hub be re-spoked without spoke hole elongation/deformation?
How available are replacement bearings, cones, axles, locknuts and freehubs years/decades post purchase?
Not all hardware is disposable.
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My one issue with Shimano hubs is that I don't know if I will find replacement cones in the future because they make so many different kinds. I guess I should just have them saved for the future. For me that's 8 different hubs
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Bob @ Psimet thinks highly of good hubs and I'd suspect he'd give a strong opinion here if he chimes in.
I'll throw out White Industries for one.
To me....and I've dealt with pretensioned bearings in lots of things in my life but I really think that cartridge bearings are the way to go. Even something as nice as Ultegra........all you have to do is snug the bearings up a little too tight (or loose, though arguably tight is worse)......and you've got trouble. Both loose and tight are problems you won't have with cartridge bearings. Install them and forget it. Just ride.
If I win the lottery, I'll certainly perform a test and report back.
I'll throw out White Industries for one.
To me....and I've dealt with pretensioned bearings in lots of things in my life but I really think that cartridge bearings are the way to go. Even something as nice as Ultegra........all you have to do is snug the bearings up a little too tight (or loose, though arguably tight is worse)......and you've got trouble. Both loose and tight are problems you won't have with cartridge bearings. Install them and forget it. Just ride.
If I win the lottery, I'll certainly perform a test and report back.
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Dura Ace 9000 is the best all-rounder. Durable, stiff, titanium freehub body, quality bearings, easy adjustment, and only $300 a set, with skewers, from Hobby Japan. You can sell the skewers for $80 if you don't want them.
Record are good too but they limit the drillings.
If you want to spend more money, you can get White Industries. They're $450 a set with no skewers. That gets you some color options.
If you really want to spend more money on some CNC'd aluminum, there is Chris King and DT.
Ultegra and below are good but the drillings are limited. You can do 32, 36, or 24 with the 36.
Record are good too but they limit the drillings.
If you want to spend more money, you can get White Industries. They're $450 a set with no skewers. That gets you some color options.
If you really want to spend more money on some CNC'd aluminum, there is Chris King and DT.
Ultegra and below are good but the drillings are limited. You can do 32, 36, or 24 with the 36.
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I've used Shimano, American Classic, Alchemy (front only), Bike Hub Store, Chris King, White Industries. They've all been pretty much trouble-free. I don't think you can really go wrong with aftermarket hubs these days. When the freehub body goes or when the cartridge bearings go, replace them and ride thousands more miles. NBD.
With that being said, I like the American Classics because the freehub is really quiet and the hub is light and less expensive than other lightweight competitors. Bike Hub Store hubs are solid and cheap but noisier than I like. White Industries look the best IMO, especially polished silver. However they are more expensive and heavier. They are made in the USA. Not a fan of CKs. Too noisy and you need special tools for servicing.
Best Appearance = White Industries
Best Value = Bike Hub Store
Best Overall = American Classic
With that being said, I like the American Classics because the freehub is really quiet and the hub is light and less expensive than other lightweight competitors. Bike Hub Store hubs are solid and cheap but noisier than I like. White Industries look the best IMO, especially polished silver. However they are more expensive and heavier. They are made in the USA. Not a fan of CKs. Too noisy and you need special tools for servicing.
Best Appearance = White Industries
Best Value = Bike Hub Store
Best Overall = American Classic
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Pick a thread about BHS house brand hubs and there will be posts about excessive axle play. I'd rather just get a Novatec.
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I have r45s. Got 'em on the cheap, and like 'em. If I were paying most of retail I think t11 or DA 9000 would be on my list. My 'commuter' set are dt350...not bad.
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