wow no discs in the tour
07-08-15, 05:56 PM
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I'm insulted, because I am the #1 basher here.
The reason why they aren't being used in pro road events is because discs are heavy (calipers and frame reinforcements), less aero and they introduce new crash risk hazards. They will result in more hair-trigger pile-ups in the peloton and more riders overcooking corners, and then pavement surfing. And the mechanics hate them because they will make wheel changes even more miserable, and cause insurmountable compatibility issues for neutral support.
And fundamentally, they are unnecessary. Except as a means to marketing new expensive bike stuff to Walter Mitty dentists.
When will discs dominate the peloton? When all riders are forced to use them so as to level the handicap.
The reason why they aren't being used in pro road events is because discs are heavy (calipers and frame reinforcements), less aero and they introduce new crash risk hazards. They will result in more hair-trigger pile-ups in the peloton and more riders overcooking corners, and then pavement surfing. And the mechanics hate them because they will make wheel changes even more miserable, and cause insurmountable compatibility issues for neutral support.
And fundamentally, they are unnecessary. Except as a means to marketing new expensive bike stuff to Walter Mitty dentists.
When will discs dominate the peloton? When all riders are forced to use them so as to level the handicap.
07-08-15, 06:08 PM
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07-08-15, 08:22 PM
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It's not the wheels touching that is the problem. The problem when you cross your front wheel with someone's rear is you don't have the ability to steer anymore. And, of course, you stay upright by steering... so that sucks.
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07-08-15, 08:25 PM
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I'm insulted, because I am the #1 basher here.
The reason why they aren't being used in pro road events is because discs are heavy (calipers and frame reinforcements), less aero and they introduce new crash risk hazards. They will result in more hair-trigger pile-ups in the peloton and more riders overcooking corners, and then pavement surfing. And the mechanics hate them because they will make wheel changes even more miserable, and cause insurmountable compatibility issues for neutral support.
And fundamentally, they are unnecessary. Except as a means to marketing new expensive bike stuff to Walter Mitty dentists.
When will discs dominate the peloton? When all riders are forced to use them so as to level the handicap.
The reason why they aren't being used in pro road events is because discs are heavy (calipers and frame reinforcements), less aero and they introduce new crash risk hazards. They will result in more hair-trigger pile-ups in the peloton and more riders overcooking corners, and then pavement surfing. And the mechanics hate them because they will make wheel changes even more miserable, and cause insurmountable compatibility issues for neutral support.
And fundamentally, they are unnecessary. Except as a means to marketing new expensive bike stuff to Walter Mitty dentists.
When will discs dominate the peloton? When all riders are forced to use them so as to level the handicap.
07-08-15, 08:30 PM
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What kind of wheels are those ?? I can't quite make out the name.
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07-08-15, 08:35 PM
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I'm insulted, because I am the #1 basher here.
Except as a means to marketing new expensive bike stuff to Walter Mitty dentists.
Except as a means to marketing new expensive bike stuff to Walter Mitty dentists.
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07-08-15, 08:38 PM
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07-08-15, 08:55 PM
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Tour? What tour?
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07-08-15, 10:17 PM
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I'm insulted, because I am the #1 basher here.
The rest of what you wrote is just speculation. How do you know what the mechanics think when they haven't even tried them yet?
You and the op sound like the retro grouches who denounce clipless pedals. If technology can improve our enjoyment of our sport then I'm all for it. If you paid attention to mountain bikes over the last couple decades you have seen a lot of change.
07-09-15, 04:12 AM
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As far as the cons go for the pro's, wheel change and neutral support is biggest hurdle.
How do you get 180 bike all to have the same caliper location so any wheel will fit?
Initial disc set up can be finicky at best.
How do you get 180 bike all to have the same caliper location so any wheel will fit?
Initial disc set up can be finicky at best.
07-09-15, 05:34 AM
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Why is there a minimum weight?
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07-09-15, 06:06 AM
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Originally, it was for safety as the UCI was afraid that frames/components were getting unreliably lightened to be safe. Now, though, they could/should, IMO, lower the weight limit a couple pounds.
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...um, what?
Some of this can be overcome by having scrupulously identical wheelsets for each team. If the mechanic is one of yours, the wheel will be good. If he's one of the Tour's, then it might not be.
Anyway, great thread. I learned a lot.
07-09-15, 07:25 AM
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Ironically, what is now an artificially high weight limit has led to the addition of more expensive stuff, i.e. power meters.
And if we go to disc brakes it will be a direct result of the weight limit. When you can build a bike under 14.9lbs complete with power meter, disc brakes, and a comfy seat, there's no weight penalty for the discs.
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07-09-15, 07:28 AM
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Uh, have you ever done wheel swaps between road disc bikes? About half of the time, the rotors aren't in the same plane as with the prior set. Caliper must be moved. It's a pain. And what if the rotor gets *dinged* in the scuffle to get it to the rider? Now we're truing rotors while the cameras film? Great...
Some of this can be overcome by having scrupulously identical wheelsets for each team. If the mechanic is one of yours, the wheel will be good. If he's one of the Tour's, then it might not be.
Anyway, great thread. I learned a lot.
Some of this can be overcome by having scrupulously identical wheelsets for each team. If the mechanic is one of yours, the wheel will be good. If he's one of the Tour's, then it might not be.
Anyway, great thread. I learned a lot.
The problem is going to be the situations where you need a wheel from nuetral support, but those are relatively rare.
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