Alias530

-Living in a town that doesn't have a high end bike shop
-Not having the desire/drive/motivation/whatever to travel to a town that does
-Not having a shop that has bikes in your size
-Your wife imposing a strict budget on you

Lots of reasons...

dtrain

Who exactly advertised it as "an Ultegra bike"? A young guy selling at Performance, or...?

DaveWC

Very strange discussion. How it ever got to be about an Ultegra partially equipped Fuji bought by another poster is beyond me as info on the components of all bikes mentioned are readily available on the net. Part of the problem for the OP is he's comparing Fujis ranging from $500-$750 to Treks ranging from $800-$1200. Obviously the components on the Treks will be higher end. Will that matter to the OP? We can't say, only the OP knows that answer. I'm sure that both the top end Fuji listed & the bottom end Trek will be fairly comparable in ride quality, component usability & owner satisfaction. I'm a Trek Madone Series 7 owner but I don't hide behind any illusions that my bike is the only bike a person should own, or that Ultegra Di2 is required equipment for others. I've also got a Trek 7.5 FX city bike with a mix of Deore / Sora components & I've had many great rides on it & love it for hammering through the city.

The OP should ride both bikes, look at the budget available, and buy the bike that feels the best for the money he has.

Alias530

Well it sure as hell isn't a Dura Ace or 105 bike... it has exactly zero DA parts and one 105 part. But to answer your question, the sticker on the bike.

"Fuji Gran Fondo 2.0 - carbon frame, ultegra drivetrain"

rms13

Only you aka Alias350 know what you're looking for. FYI, I don't own or have ever owned a Fuji and I still think discounting the idea of buying one based on one random person on the internet's opinion is asinine. Especially if it's your first bike and you can buy from Performance where they have a 1 year money back satisfaction guarantee.

Alias530

What makes you think he's me? How about a wager? Get one of the moderators to scan our IP addresses and if we're the same person, you request a permanent ban from the website? And if we are the same person, I'll request a permanent ban. Calling you out. Accept or you can stop spreading lies.

Alias530

What the hell are you going to do with the guarantee? Exchange for another off brand bike that isn't any better?

That's how I ended up with a Fuji in the first place. I bought a GT mountain bike and was told it was a great bike. Bought it, did my research afterwards (admittedly my fault), found out it wasn't and couldn't do what I wanted it to do, tried to get my money back and they said I could only get store credit. They literally didn't sell any better mountain bikes than the one that I got (lower end store) and said they couldn't order (later I found out this wasn't true) so I exchanged it for a road bike and paid extra for the difference. That's how I got into road biking to begin with... being lied to by a corporation. I guess it all worked out in the end but I was not a happy camper at the time.

stlcowboyfan

am I missing something? Why are mods allowing this to continue. It's so far removed from the spirit of the OP inquiry...it may as well be comparing dishwashers.

rms13

Most 12 year olds can masquerade an IP address these days so that's not going to prove anything

Alias530

The OP is taking and using the advice. He thanked me for my input.

Nobody is being abusive or rude or name calling... no reason for it to not continue.

Alias530

Now you're just backpedaling

You tell me what would suffice for proof. Newspaper? Mail? A picture of a random common object with a note written next to it from each of us? I don't even know if the other member cares enough to participate but I'll gladly do what it takes to get you to stop spreading lies.

ColaJacket

Alias, quit talking to yourself.

GH

BillyD

Alias530, you've made your point more than clear. Please do not return to post in this thread for the duration. Thanks!

DreamRider85

I'm not Alias. Just stop with that.

Anyways, I'm looking for a bike that fits a person over 200 LBS, I'm 5 ft 10 but have a long upper body, I'm looking for a bike that will allow me to ride 40-60 miles in a day smoothly, is reliable and rides the roads well. Right now I ride a mountain bike on the road and that isn't what I want. It's not ideal. I want a bike I can transport in and train in, heavy miles. My budget is about 1,200. Plus I know I'll have to buy accessories. But if the Fuji bike is 500 bucks and only 90 percent what the Trek is at 1,200, I will take the latter. Remember, I'm not looking for a bargain. I'm looking to get the best bike for the full amount of money I spend. I'm not looking to spend under my budget if that means the quality is even 5 percent less. Alias seems to know some inside information and suggests that the quality material isn't as good as Treks. There has to be a reason why Fuji isn't highly recognized. Now maybe that means I look at Cannondale. But please convince me how Fuji is better than Trek. NOT BECAUSE OF MONEY SAVING reasons, but for bike related reasons. Please do not use the $$$ as part of the argument. Not looking for a bargain. Alias has presented you why he thinks Trek is better. Now present me with why you think Fuji is better and do it without using any money saving benefits. BIKE related benefits only.

DaveWC

This makes absolutely no sense. You don't need any help from anyone else to convince you of what to do. You can easily look at the component list for each bike & see what you're getting. No one can tell you that you will be happier with a Tiagra equipped bike vs a Sora... including you. It doesn't sound like you've ridden either bike & that's the most important factor of this exercise. Alias has no inside information, he has a grudge. If that's good enough for you, buy the Trek. I've got two Treks, they're great bikes. But they're great bikes for me for reasons you won't be familiar with. I rode them, I compared the components I was getting with those of comparable bikes & I chose them.

Igualmente

Why do we have to convince you Fuji is better? What if two $1200 bikes, one from Trek, one from Fuji, are both just as good taking into account your intended purpose? What if they both have good frames, good weights, and components that are fine?

Anyways, the Roubaix 1.1 which is $1299 at PB was recommended way back on page 2 and I'd certainly take it for a ride to compare to the Madone 2.1. It seems to satisfy plenty of buyers.

PepeM

'Inside information'

As far as I know none of us works for Fuji, so I don't see why we should convince you of anything. Sounding a bit entitled mate, how about you go and get yourself whichever bike you want.

rms13

??? You are just trolling. Why are you comparing a $500 Fuji to $1200 Trek? If you compare a $1200 Fuji to $1200 Trek you are getting more bang for your buck. Its a proven fact even if Fuji brand isn't known by you, which really means nothing. Fuji has been around for almost 150 years so they have a track record in the bike industry. Seriously, any bike for $1200 is going to be the same quality and relatively same spec. Get the one that fits, has geometry you want, looks pretty a s will make you want to ride it

cicatrize

Man, I'm not gonna lie. I'm a Trek guy, and I was actually going to get the Madone 2.1 but they don't really make it anymore and you can't find it in bigger frame sizes. If I would have known about the Roubaix 1.1, I would've taken that for a test ride too. That looks like a pretty solid bike for the money. Not much to complain about, components-wise, and it's a great price.

bikemig 

This is a weird thread. The OP keeps getting good advice and keeps posting questions based on (a) misinformation (my 2 favorites are (1) that one of the posters has some inside info on why Fujis are defective and (2) the OP knows little about bikes but is quite certain that Fuji is no good since he knows nothing about Fujis) and (b) some weird comparison between a $500 Fuji to a $1200 Trek. Posts 165 through 168 pretty much nail it.

Edit: This is one of my favorite posts by the OP:

That was well over one hundred posts ago . . .

That was post no. 15. Then take a look at OP's post no. 164. Still on the same question, still based on the same misinformation.

rms13

yes, one of the strangest threads I have seen which is why I don't trust the OP's intentions at all. But I'm happy to play along

Bathwater

Lol more hilarity. You're really grasping here and your arbitrary standard is clearly showing your irrational hatred. Also, lol again at you for describing Rival and low end and junky. I bet you think 105 is garbage, too.

Shuffleman

Fuji is not a cheap bike. Trek is not a better bike. They are both good bikes. Trek will usually cost more money than Fuji because of their brand. You will not go wrong with either one. It is simply a matter of preference. Trek fans will tell you how it is the best bike in the world. Fuji fans will do the same thing. Most name brand bikes with comparable specs are comparable in quality as well.
Good advice.

It is easy to over think the bike buying process as a beginner. As one poster stated, pick out your bike type, pick out your component desire (Tiagra, Sora, and etc). Set your budget and then go buy the one that you like the look of. They are all good bikes. There are better deals out there for some brands. Performance is a great place to get your first bike and you can get great deals there. I personally think that is the best place to buy a bike for a beginner on a budget. LBS's are also great. You get a lot of knowledge and a great bike there as well. It may cost you a little more money but it can provide you with a great experience. You are not getting ripped off or getting a cheap bike either way. I think that you have the basic knowledge from reading this board. Just make a decision of which shop you want to buy from and go from there.

Bathwater

It's funny, one guy repeatedly posts illogical nonsense and the TS thinks it's honesty and candor based on "inside information," yet several other posters consistently refute his BS and they're just dishonest and insecure.

snow_echo_NY

+1
I am also surprised you haven't tried these out before asking. you should probably be trying every bike out there at your price point first and narrow it down then post about the bikes you narrow it down to...