Why do the newbies never listen?
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Let's see here , Sidi shoes :$500 , Jersey : $100 , Bibshort: @120 , Gloves:$30 , Socks: $15 , Helmet:$80 , sunglass:$140 . total : $985 . The newbie is not doing too bad with is $600 kit .
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Shoes (Shimano SHM-089 MTB) - $100
Helmet (Giro Monza) - $60
Shorts (Performance Ultra Bibs) - $60
Sunglasses (Motorcycle) - $20
Jersey (TJ Maxx UA Special) - $20
Gloves (leather; crochet back) - $12
Socks (UA Package of 3 for $10) - $3
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Total: $275
And that's just what I wear on one ride. Toss in another bib, and a couple more shirts and socks, and that's another $100.
And I don't really have jerseys, I just have Hi-Viz wicking shirts from TJ Maxx. My socks are UA Hi-Viz wicking socks from TJ Maxx, that just happen to match my shirts.
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Why in the hell do you always pick on newbs You ought to be ashamed of yourselves. I've only been here a short time so I guess I'm a newb to this forum. But I'm certainly not a newb to bicycling. In fact I've probably got more time in the saddle than you are old. You forum veterans are supposed to help newbs and make them feel welcome, not make them feel inferior and want to quit the forum.
Think about this before you flame me. You know I'm right don't you.
Ease up. Newbs have feelings too ya know.
Think about this before you flame me. You know I'm right don't you.
Ease up. Newbs have feelings too ya know.
"Road Cyclists are in general highly competitive athletes, and can be a bit rough in their humor. Sarcasm and insults can and do occur, so you're going to need a bit of a thick skin in here. They aren't meant in malice (generally). It's just their aggressive, cutting humor, often with a razors edge. Think of them as an athletic versions of George Carlin, Billy Connolly, or Chris Rock. Just like riding with a new group of cyclists, it may be a good idea to sit in the back, to get a feel for the group, before you jump into the thick of things. "
As for "growing the sport," that's a concern of people who have something to sell. Most of us aren't selling anything and couldn't care less if anyone else in the world becomes a road cyclist. (Though personally I would like more people to ride bikes for transportation rather than drive cars).
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This is the Road Cycling forum. It doesn't work like you suggest and is not designed to. All newbies should not be allowed to post until they've read the intorduction sticky, end to end, and taken to heart what Tom wrote in the first post:
"Road Cyclists are in general highly competitive athletes, and can be a bit rough in their humor. Sarcasm and insults can and do occur, so you're going to need a bit of a thick skin in here. They aren't meant in malice (generally). It's just their aggressive, cutting humor, often with a razors edge. Think of them as an athletic versions of George Carlin, Billy Connolly, or Chris Rock. Just like riding with a new group of cyclists, it may be a good idea to sit in the back, to get a feel for the group, before you jump into the thick of things. "
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"Road Cyclists are in general highly competitive athletes, and can be a bit rough in their humor. Sarcasm and insults can and do occur, so you're going to need a bit of a thick skin in here. They aren't meant in malice (generally). It's just their aggressive, cutting humor, often with a razors edge. Think of them as an athletic versions of George Carlin, Billy Connolly, or Chris Rock. Just like riding with a new group of cyclists, it may be a good idea to sit in the back, to get a feel for the group, before you jump into the thick of things. "
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Newbie shows up with shiny new $5000 road bike and $600 with of kit. The club leader assigns me to be sure we don't leave him on the road (we're no-drop). It's a 52 miler with lots of sneaky grades and high temp of 92*. Newbie attempts to chase down the B1 group on the first long 5 mile climb, I ride along side him and let him know this is a pretty aggressive pace for this grade, if he's worried about finishing he might want to ease up. Nope, he keeps chasing until he blows up. We regroup at the top, it's a chance to coast/rest, he catches his breath and starts hammering down the grade, trying to chase down the B1 group, I just cruise along know what comes next...Long story short, he makes it to the 25mile rest stop, just barely and spends the next 25 miles glued on my wheel, I have to let up on every up-grade or he gets dropped.
Does it kill them when I'm on my 25lbs steel framed road bike I've got ~$450 in, and I only buy cycling clothes from Performance when it's on sale? Is that why they don't listen at first? By the end of the ride they're asking me why I don't have a better bike but they're listening....
Does it kill them when I'm on my 25lbs steel framed road bike I've got ~$450 in, and I only buy cycling clothes from Performance when it's on sale? Is that why they don't listen at first? By the end of the ride they're asking me why I don't have a better bike but they're listening....
Does this newbie make the same mistake over and over?
I doubt they care what bicycle you are riding or what kit you are wearing. Newbies are called newbies for a reason. They are new to the sport and don't have a point of reference for how much effort to put out and when. I've made the same mistake. Many times. Even when I knew better; sometimes it's just fun to chase down or try to hang with the big dogs. Especially when you are feeling fresh and invincible.
Sounds to me that you are not happy being in the no-drop group. I suggest you go ride by yourself.
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Newbie shows up with shiny new $5000 road bike and $600 with of kit. The club leader assigns me to be sure we don't leave him on the road (we're no-drop). It's a 52 miler with lots of sneaky grades and high temp of 92*. Newbie attempts to chase down the B1 group on the first long 5 mile climb, I ride along side him and let him know this is a pretty aggressive pace for this grade, if he's worried about finishing he might want to ease up. Nope, he keeps chasing until he blows up. We regroup at the top, it's a chance to coast/rest, he catches his breath and starts hammering down the grade, trying to chase down the B1 group, I just cruise along know what comes next...Long story short, he makes it to the 25mile rest stop, just barely and spends the next 25 miles glued on my wheel, I have to let up on every up-grade or he gets dropped.
Does it kill them when I'm on my 25lbs steel framed road bike I've got ~$450 in, and I only buy cycling clothes from Performance when it's on sale? Is that why they don't listen at first? By the end of the ride they're asking me why I don't have a better bike but they're listening....
Does it kill them when I'm on my 25lbs steel framed road bike I've got ~$450 in, and I only buy cycling clothes from Performance when it's on sale? Is that why they don't listen at first? By the end of the ride they're asking me why I don't have a better bike but they're listening....
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Yet you seem to care a great deal about what kind of bike other people ride. Why?
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