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If I sprint on a hybrid at 23...how much increase will I see with a road bike?

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Old 09-01-15, 01:28 AM
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If I sprint on a hybrid at 23...how much increase will I see with a road bike?

With my hybrid, cruising at 15mph is easy, 20 is fine with a bit more effort and if I sprint on a flat surface, it's a bit above 23mph. How much speed increase will I see with a road bike? I'm gonna start looking at shops soon (found a Specialized Allez advertised for $600) and am wondering what I should expect once I upgrade.
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Sprinting on the hoods will make significant difference. You will have a better aero position and controlling bike is easier.

So, if you really want some numbers i'm guessing you can sprint to around 28mph.
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I don't know. And neither does anyone else. Sounds like the hybrid is a good fit for you and you may want to stick with it. If you go with a typical road bike, you might find the geometry is not as good. You might find it twitchy. My point: Riding a road bike is different, faster for some, but not all.
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Originally Posted by Robius
Sprinting on the hoods will make significant difference. You will have a better aero position and controlling bike is easier.

So, if you really want some numbers i'm guessing you can sprint to around 28mph.
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road bikes are 14.37 % faster
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01
drops

road bikes are 14.37 % faster
Oh sorry my bad, drops indeed.

I agree with 14.37%.
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Originally Posted by Homebrew01
drops

road bikes are 14.37 % faster
this

Originally Posted by Robius
my bad, drops indeed
Yes sprinting on hoods is a bad idea, one slip and you're done. You have more control more grip on the drops, more aero, and more brake stopping power.
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It depends a lot on you setup, but a good estimate is 1-2 MPH. YMMV.
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I always found it closer to 14.5% faster but it may just be that the fit gives me higher than the 14.37% industry standard of improvement in speed.
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Is that on a flat, incline, decline, road surface, single track, velodrome, headwind, tailwind, crosswind, in a draft, echelon, clipless, carbon soles, 23mm, 25 or even 28mm, fresh or exhausted, with or without rubbing brakes, in the snow, rain, cloudy or sunny day, in cycling bibs or shorts, with a lightly packed saddlebag or dare I ask: a backpack with a 2L filled water bladder?

Without that information I'll take a rough guesttimate between going over the handlebars because of a foolish sprint attempt and 1.04mph on a good day
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Going from hybrid to even a less aggressive endurance road bike I am willing to bet you will immediately gain 1-2 mph.
And if you are hitting the fairly impressive speeds you referenced on the hybrid you are most likely going to have no problem at all with the different style bike and riding position.
It takes a hell of a lot of effort to hit those speeds on a hybrid.
Based upon your OP it seems that you are very interested in overall speed (a good thing imo) so I would highly suggest you purchase a road bike. Test ride a few though before you buy one.
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Not sure how you can expect an accurate answer when you don't even tell us what color your saddle is.
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It doesn't matter. A road bike just looks like it's going faster, and that's what's important. Also if you pass someone who's riding a road bike they won't be as embarrassed as they would be if you were on a hybrid.
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Originally Posted by Scummer
Is that on a flat, incline, decline, road surface, single track, velodrome, headwind, tailwind, crosswind, in a draft, echelon, clipless, carbon soles, 23mm, 25 or even 28mm, fresh or exhausted, with or without rubbing brakes, in the snow, rain, cloudy or sunny day, in cycling bibs or shorts, with a lightly packed saddlebag or dare I ask: a backpack with a 2L filled water bladder?

Without that information I'll take a rough guesttimate between going over the handlebars because of a foolish sprint attempt and 1.04mph on a good day
All those things are fine to get started, but you missed the most important : Bike COLOR !!
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In all seriousness, how much faster is a road bike over a comparable weight hybrid? My buddy who rides with a trek FX 7.5 gave up riding with us as he can't keep up anywhere, specially climbs. His bike weights around 7-8 LBS more than our road bikes. Any BTW, his bike is white.
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If you can keep 20mph on your hybrid you should get some aero wheels on that bad boy and you should be hitting the 40s easy.
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I gained 1-2 mph just by dropping the stem on my hybrid. If you don't get gains from doing that, then the road bike won't gain you much. It's all about pelvic tilt, they say.

Last night I rented a Synapse (endurance road bike), and did an all out sprint for comparison to one I just did on my hybrid with lowered stem. Over 1.6 miles around a lake I was 1.0 second faster on the synapse. Everywhere else at less than all out pace, I was much faster than the hybrid, with less effort. But at full effort, I think I was in the margin of error, to be honest. I've got the road bike for a couple of more days so maybe I'll get faster.

I did another segment where the synapse blew away my personal record on a straight stretch about 1.1 miles long. It was like 25s faster, and I had to come to nearly a stop on the synapse (construction...).

Just anecdotal info here, but it's something.
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Just to throw in some personal experience with all the smartass answers, a number of years ago I went from an upright hybrid with 32 mm tires where I had to work hard to maintain 18-20 mph for a 15 mile ride to a road bike and found that I could cruise easily at 20 for the same distance or longer. Of course that was 25,000 miles ago so YMMV.
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Originally Posted by jtaylor996
I gained 1-2 mph just by dropping the stem on my hybrid. If you don't get gains from doing that, then the road bike won't gain you much. It's all about pelvic tilt, they say.

Last night I rented a Synapse (endurance road bike), and did an all out sprint for comparison to one I just did on my hybrid with lowered stem. Over 1.6 miles around a lake I was 1.0 second faster on the synapse. Everywhere else at less than all out pace, I was much faster than the hybrid, with less effort. But at full effort, I think I was in the margin of error, to be honest. I've got the road bike for a couple of more days so maybe I'll get faster.

I did another segment where the synapse blew away my personal record on a straight stretch about 1.1 miles long. It was like 25s faster, and I had to come to nearly a stop on the synapse (construction...).

Just anecdotal info here, but it's something.
1.6 miles is not a sprint.
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There is also more than top speed reached to a sprint, but we shouldn't let such small details stop us from speculating.
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I call my 5.2 mile loop I do a sprint, mainly because if I push that hard, it is all I am going to do.
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If you cruise at 20 and only reach 23 in a sprint, there's something wrong.
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Originally Posted by caloso
1.6 miles is not a sprint.
So is it more cool than a sprint or less cool than a sprint? I'm new to cycling in general...
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Originally Posted by Robius
Sprinting on the hoods will make significant difference. You will have a better aero position and controlling bike is easier.

So, if you really want some numbers i'm guessing you can sprint to around 28mph.
I think you meant 280 mph?
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