I wanna get over the hill and down the other side faster
09-03-15, 03:58 PM
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I wanna get over the hill and down the other side faster
should I throw down the watts going up or save them for going down..
I am a good descender and not so good climber.
How do I best reach the other side in a timely manner that matches the others.
I am a good descender and not so good climber.
How do I best reach the other side in a timely manner that matches the others.
09-03-15, 04:02 PM
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09-03-15, 04:04 PM
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Putting the big efforts on the uphill will gain you more speed than putting the same effort going downhill. I say go hard when going up but keep some in reserve for the downhill.
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Attack the descent you crazy badger
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I really can't go much faster up hill.
all I can do is pull up a tad on the ups and use that match for the downs.
just wondering how much time, if any i'll save.
all I can do is pull up a tad on the ups and use that match for the downs.
just wondering how much time, if any i'll save.
09-03-15, 04:14 PM
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2x the speed on an uphill climb requires roughly 2x the power, 2x the speed on a descent requires 4x the power.
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Bowling balls. Grab some (in bags...) at the top of the hill and hang them off your aero bars.
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30 MPH down a 3% grade would take a cyclist 200W given 75kg total weight, .4 m^2 Sd, and .760 Cd, and .004 Crr. 60 MPH would take 3150 W (not a typo).
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On flat ground it would be 8X because you quadruple drag and cover distance twice as fast. Down hill it's much more because you need to octuple the total from gravity and your legs.
30 MPH down a 3% grade would take a cyclist 200W given 75kg total weight, .4 m^2 Sd, and .760 Cd, and .004 Crr. 60 MPH would take 3150 W (not a typo).
30 MPH down a 3% grade would take a cyclist 200W given 75kg total weight, .4 m^2 Sd, and .760 Cd, and .004 Crr. 60 MPH would take 3150 W (not a typo).
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Up. Wind resistance slows you down on the downhill and fighting it is a losing battle.
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On flat ground it would be 8X because you quadruple drag and cover distance twice as fast. Down hill it's much more because you need to octuple the total from gravity and your legs.
30 MPH down a 3% grade would take a cyclist 200W given 75kg total weight, .4 m^2 Sd, and .760 Cd, and .004 Crr. 60 MPH would take 3150 W (not a typo).
30 MPH down a 3% grade would take a cyclist 200W given 75kg total weight, .4 m^2 Sd, and .760 Cd, and .004 Crr. 60 MPH would take 3150 W (not a typo).
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09-03-15, 05:01 PM
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Hit the bottom of the climb as hard and as fast as you can. As you go up the climb slowly increase the pace until you are sprinting over the top of the hill and then simply dial up the power from there as you go down the descent.
Easy.
Easy.
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if you are a strong descender, then work on your fitness and climbing. Always work on your weakness to go faster 
Ride more, interval training, or doping if you are a pro ;-)
Ride more, interval training, or doping if you are a pro ;-)
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Even it out, especially if we're talking about rollers. Work just as hard on the descents as you do on the climbs - not too hard though, because we're talking an effort you're maintaining the whole time. If you don't work on the descent, you won't maximize your momentum heading up the next hill, and if you work too hard on the climb, you'll have to rest and you'll slow down way too much, limp over the top, and again fail to maximize your momentum on the next descent.
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On flat ground it would be 8X because you quadruple drag and cover distance twice as fast. Down hill it's much more because you need to octuple the total from gravity and your legs.
30 MPH down a 3% grade would take a cyclist 200W given 75kg total weight, .4 m^2 Sd, and .760 Cd, and .004 Crr. 60 MPH would take 3150 W (not a typo).
30 MPH down a 3% grade would take a cyclist 200W given 75kg total weight, .4 m^2 Sd, and .760 Cd, and .004 Crr. 60 MPH would take 3150 W (not a typo).