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Old 09-04-15, 08:45 AM
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Down on Paverx

Our neighborhood recently went through a "road rejuvenation" project where a layer of Paverx was put down. While a lot of people are concerned about the environment safety side of this smelly tar goo (myself included), what I can say definitely is that stuff is a hazard for cyclists: they are incredibly slick even after a few weeks, and with any kind of moisture the road surface literally turns into a skating rink. I went down on a corner hard two days ago hours after a rain shower. It's corner I've done hundreds of times before the paving, dry or wet, without any problem. I've seen cars skid.

I am going to raise this with the HOA (our quasi government in suburb land) next chance I get.
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Wow, I never heard of it before until I googled it. Maybe as it ages it will improve??

The pavement problem in my parts is chipseal, it's everywhere!!
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Wow, I never heard of it before until I googled it. Maybe as it ages it will improve??

The pavement problem in my parts is chipseal, it's everywhere!!
I hope so... as it is now, I think it's a safety issue for both drivers and cyclists. Chipseal may even be better than this (never thought I would say it).
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Hopefully there is a simple way to "texture" it a bit without going as far as cutting massive rain grooves.
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Paverx sounds like something you should ask your doctor about, after watching a commercial with a family picnicking.
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Paverx sounds like something you should ask your doctor about, after watching a commercial with a family picnicking.
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Last year R.I. Dept of Transportation cut in some rumble strips at the edge of a busy road with no shoulder forcing cyclists to ride further from the edge. Our bike club seems to have good relationships with local communities and the state and local police. The club president brought this dangerous condition to the attention of the town and highway department and the rumble strips were filled in short order. The club, with 1300 members or so, donates over $50,000 to organizations involved in all aspects of cycling advocacy. Though the club does a very smooth job with it's rides, the advocacy is the more important activity. This is the best reason to have an active club over long periods of time.
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Originally Posted by RollCNY
Paverx sounds like something you should ask your doctor about, after watching a commercial with a family picnicking.
even without asking my doctor, I know it's not for me.
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Originally Posted by dalava
Our neighborhood recently went through a "road rejuvenation" project where a layer of Paverx was put down. ...
I am going to raise this with the HOA (our quasi government in suburb land) next chance I get.
It's done because it's cheaper. You'll be raising your HOA fees too!
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paverx sounds like something you should ask your doctor about, after watching a commercial with a family picnicking.
I am PAVERX, SUPREME WARLORD of the planet LIPITOR and GRAND EMPEROR of the XANAX galaxy. All puny earthmen will put down their weapons and surrender at once!
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I am PAVERX, SUPREME WARLORD of the planet LIPITOR and GRAND EMPEROR of the XANAX galaxy. All puny earthmen will put down their weapons and surrender at once!
I would have guessed you were from Uranus.
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Originally Posted by RollCNY
Paverx sounds like something you should ask your doctor about, after watching a commercial with a family picnicking.
"You should discontinue Paverx and seek immediate medical attention if you begin to show signs of road rash or night terrors."
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It's done because it's cheaper. You'll be raising your HOA fees too!
Can't imagine they could raise it much higher, or it would be more than my mortgage.
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Sounds paverted to me.
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Every once in a while a really bad idea gets the attention of road and highway departments.

I recall a project a number of years ago. I local municipality want to extend a road across what was essentially a swamp. A huckster sold them on the idea of supporting the road on what was essentially Styrofoam panels. Yeah, that worked well.

This sounds like another great idea who's time should never have come.
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Originally Posted by dalava
Can't imagine they could raise it much higher, or it would be more than my mortgage.
There's no requirement for it to be lower than your mortgage. Though, it would be odd that a condo hoa fee was that close to your mortguage (unless you have borrowed a small part of the purchase price or bought it long ago for cheap).
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Originally Posted by dalava
Our neighborhood recently went through a "road rejuvenation" project where a layer of Paverx was put down. While a lot of people are concerned about the environment safety side of this smelly tar goo (myself included), what I can say definitely is that stuff is a hazard for cyclists: they are incredibly slick even after a few weeks, and with any kind of moisture the road surface literally turns into a skating rink.
This just looks like driveway sealant. Rejuvinate, not quite. Sealant is a more appropriate word. I use it regularly (every other year) on my driveway to keep it a dark shade of black for the winter to absorb the sun's heat.

I would be terrified if I encountered entire roadway with this on my motorcycle in the rain. Bad enough are painted lines. I've seen similar stuff used on large parking lots (IMHO, a more appropriate use for it)
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Originally Posted by SpikedLemon
This just looks like driveway sealant. Rejuvinate, not quite. Sealant is a more appropriate word. I use it regularly (every other year) on my driveway to keep it a dark shade of black for the winter to absorb the sun's heat.

I would be terrified if I encountered entire roadway with this on my motorcycle in the rain. Bad enough are painted lines. I've seen similar stuff used on large parking lots (IMHO, a more appropriate use for it)
Yup, they "rejuvenated" the entire neighborhood with this stuff, a pretty big gated community with a golf course on it. A lot of parents are raising hell about the carcinogens in this stuff, but it's already done. Not sure what they are going to do anything about it. In terms of HOA fee, it's north of $500 for the smallest condo/hownhouse, and go up from there. But they do keep the place nice and neat, until this Paverx crap. Someone probably thought this stuff looked nice on their driveway, so why not the entire neighborhood.
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Since driveway sealers are made from coal tar and recycled petroleum products you should avoid using them if you have kids. You will track a lot of it into your home where it will reside in the rugs.


Is Your Driveway Safe?
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Since driveway sealers are made from coal tar and recycled petroleum products you should avoid using them if you have kids. You will track a lot of it into your home where it will reside in the rugs.


Is Your Driveway Safe?
Or just use this stuff - coal tar free, it works great and cleans up with water.

Latex-ite 4.75-Gal. Airport Grade Driveway Filler Sealer-73066 - The Home Depot
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Just slow down.
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