RolandArthur

Ice cream is nice but I really like those pear ice cones:

Joe Minton

31 flavors "Chocolate Fudge" !! Yum!

Joe

FLvector

This is exactly what these riders want, so you're doing them a favor by staying out of their way. Most don't care to wave and chat with unfamiliar cyclist and don't need a mirror since it's easy to turn their head to see. You're using a very broad brush by describing these riders as rude and arrogant, which is ironic based on your description of a roadie. Time for some self reflection.

RolandArthur

Hi Joe,

Your sources being not official and governmental is not really an issue The most troublesome legislation are the laws concerning bike helmets. In many countries the law says you have to put one on your head. We just don´t and I never witnessed a policeman citing a cyclist for it. And that is a good thing.

mprelaw

Of course it is. I've ridden there.

PhotoJoe 

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TobinH

This is a truly adorable piece. I sometimes forget that these sorts of people actually exist, and are not just comical stereotypes to serve as punchlines.

KonaRider125

Dude, good time to pull over to the side of the road for a 60 second breather and drink of water.

macca33

Well, from this thread, I (think) I have been able to conclude that if anyone ever wishes to drope the hamer, dial it up to 400watts and pass someone, they need, firstly, to employ a town crier to announce their impending manoeuvre???

Not sure why the OP got all riled up over it - he could've sat-up, had a drink, let them go, then continued on his merry way, OR, he could've interacted, perhaps joined their bunch and continued, whilst actively rolling turns with them....

Bicycle riding is so complicated?!?

smarkinson

I don't know why they bother telecasting things like the Tour de France and Giro d'Italia. They should just set some cameras up on the cycle trails in American cities. All the cat 6 racing at 20mph you could ever want.

It?s Not A Race

bt

it's called an unhealthy Ego.

LesterOfPuppets

I don't know if there are any EU-wide cycling laws. I think Germany has the strictest bicycle lighting requirements, but racing bicycles are exempt from some of them.

OMG, I wonder if that's really accurate. Rim at least 630mm??? So you have to ride 27" wheels to get the racing bike exemptions in Germany?

Luckily my MTBs also meet the weight requirement to be MTBs, but not the rim diameter requirement.

diphthong

this thread is an hc descent. just when you think it can't go downhill any more, you magically round a corner
and drop farther down into a bottomless valley.

kbarch

Thanks for that link - salvaged the whole thread for me.
Gem from another post in that blog: "Show no pain, unless your face is just like that."

indyfabz

The OP needs to add some originality to his game.

bakes1

Did you miss the part where he clearly said sometimes they pass too closely? Reading comprehension not your strong point eh...
I guess where you ride it's okay to pass too close and unannounced so you just can't comprehend that other riders in other areas, even with thick skins, would correctly have issue with that.

Joe Minton

bakes1:
Google BPD (Borderline Personality Disorder) -- LOL -- The definition helped me understand ;o)

Joe

Joe Minton

LesterOfPuppets:

Thanks for the quote. That is what I remember reading and is in line with my understanding. However, I thought that these rules were generally Scandinavian or even EU in general.
Is it possible that similar requirements exist in other EU counties?

Joe

BillyD

I frequently have that experience while climbing . . . just when you're praying it can't go uphill anymore, you round the corner and see that it's still going up, sometimes even steeper.

CliffordK

I haven't had a lot of paceline encounters around here, although occasionally I'll see pairs riders.

Anyway, I'm a slow rider, but usually have a little left in the reserve tank.

I don't like being passed (and reminded that I'm slow). So, if I see someone approaching from behind, I may kick it up a few notches.

However, if they do pass me, I usually just let them go, or perhaps I'll match their speed, and hang back 50 feet or so (not snagging a cheap draft).

Sometimes if I see them from behind (perhaps they turned onto the road in front of me), I may choose to kick it up a bit to pass them, but then I keep my speed up long enough that I definitively drop them (or one of us turns).

I just don't like a situation where they are barely passing me, or I'm barely passing them.

I guess there was a guy a couple of weeks ago that we exchanged a few passes.... until I decided that was enough, and passed him one last time and never saw him again.

Anyway, if you're barely keeping up with this paceline group, either drop back some and let them go ahead, or kick it up enough that you can leave them in the dust.

mprelaw

I think I've made a comment about not announcing on a pass once in my life, and it wasn't really about announcing. It was when a paceline decided to pass at a distance of about 8" when I was trying to move left to avoid potholes and crumbling pavement. Which I'm pretty sure that they saw, too. What I said was, "hey, you're riding me right into the potholes---give me another foot, at least".

TimothyH

Thanks for this.

I went for a quick 15 mile ride at lunchtime and couldn't stop laughing during my ride because of this post.

motorthings

threads with a binary question as the title should always include a poll.
i'd love to see the votes piling up on this one.

CliffordK

Absolutely.

This is especially important in an actual race where you wouldn't want to be accused of sneaking past an inattentive fellow racer taking a break.

patrickgm60

Not bull****, as stated in this quote from your own link. How can you ride "as near to the right curb or edge of the roadway as practical" when riding 2 or 3 abreast?