greenlight149

im interested in collecting some data on heart rate and see if theres any correlations.


please post the following if you are interested

-age
-weight
-resting heart rate (preferably measured after waking up in the morning)
-threshold heart rate
-max heart rate
EDIT: please provide your height as well

when i gather enough data i will post the results here in the form of charts and graphs, it might be of interest to some of you here. or i will find nothing and this is all a waste of time.

thanks!

GuitarBob

You're welcome to collect your own data, of course, but it's probably worth your time to dig through the scientific literature. Perhaps a starting point:

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q...n&as_sdt=0%2C3

RISKDR1

age: 70.5
weight. 200
rest rate: 48-52
threshold: Not tested but subjectively feel about 135 based on experience doing 5 mile steady state tt
max: 154 based on best max effort on long climbs

Darkover

Age: 49
weight: 155
rest rate : 58
threshold: 183
Max : 201

greenlight149

thank you, i will look into it

jimincalif

Age: 57
weight: 205
rest rate : 49
threshold: 135-140 not specifically measured, estimate
Max : 182

CliffordK

What are your ultimate goals?

Here you will bias your results by selecting some of the more "fit" individuals. Especially selecting those individuals who know those numbers off the top of their heads.

But, you're also not asking fitness details to correlate.

Mumonkan

-age - 29
-weight - 160
-resting heart rate - 39
-threshold heart rate - ~160 (not formally tested, guesstimation based on hard mtb ride)
-max heart rate - 204 (again, not formally tested but its the highest ive seen it)

wouldnt height be relative information in correlation with weight to calculate BMI?

-height - 5'10"

chasm54

61
201 lbs
48
162
unknown but c. 180
height 6'3"

greenlight149

There is bias for sure, and that's ok for my purposes, because I want to see if a higher threshold heart rate is correlated with a higher, or lower resting heart rate. The hypothesis is that if the heart doesn't need to work very hard ( low resting hr), does that mean it also doesn't have to work very hard at threshold.

I think it's better that I'm selecting for a group of people that are all regular cyclists, rather than random individuals with very different fitness. The unfit individuals also wouldn't know all these information without getting tested, so this is pretty convenient.

greenlight149

I thought about bmi, but decided against using it. Im not confident that it's a reliable measure of healthy body weight. Perhaps height is a worth while metric, thanks for the suggestion.

gregf83 

Without the power numbers the data won't mean anything. Someone with a low resting HR and low power at threshold doesn't need a very high HR at threshold. On the other hand the fittest strongest athletes are likely to have low resting HRs and their threshold HRs will vary depending on the stroke volume of their individual heart.

There's plenty of data available to determine threshold heart rates of pro cyclists and it's all over the map.

greenlight149

Not everyone has a reliable way to measure power, and power can change significantly in a short time span without changing the heart rate, purely due to muscular adaptations.

chasm54

It isn't, for individuals. It's a population measure. The higher the proportion of people with BMIs over 25 (over 23 works, too) the higher the prevalence of various degenerative diseases. And as the BMI rise over 30, 35 etc., so do the health problems. But at an individual level there are mesomorphs with highish BMIs but low body fat. Not as many as you'd think from reading these forums, (remarkable how many people are unable to diagnose themselves as being fat) but some.

Campag4life

Age 61
6'1" 175 lbs
Resting heart rate: 60-65
LTHR: 175
Max: 195

Fit older non racer who prefers A-/B+ group rides.

Per your study, OP, my HR nos. fit your theory. My slightly higher resting HR for a fit rider does correlate with my higher threshold HR and Max HR...especially given my age.

chasm54

No, that doesn't work, because that isn't what threshold is about. Your threshold is largely about how much oxygen your system can take up and use. And it is trainable, but in exactly the opposite direction from the one you are assuming. When I am unfit my resting HR rises but my threshold HR falls. When I started traning for racing my threshold was 156, when I was race-fit it touched 164. Over the same period my resting HR dropped from 51 to 45.

This makes sense. With training, stroke volume increases, hence decline in RHR. But your threshold HR rises because you become able to take up and burn more O2. As I understand it (and I don't, entirely) the mechanism that makes your heart beat faster with exercise is the difference in the oxygen content of venous and arterial blood. The more O2 your muscles are burning, the greater that difference becomes and the faster your heart beats to keep up.

Which means that in trained athletes there is more likely to be a positive correlation between low RHR and high LTHR.

RR3

Age: 57
weight: 188
Height 6'3''
rest rate : 48
threshold:169
Max :181

Edit: my threshold is usually 162-163 when measuring lactate levels but the threshold listed of 169 was the lowest HR on a 40k time trial....my HR was mostly 170-172 for the distance until the end when it was pushed higher.

linsdog

Age:42
weight: 160
Height 5'10"
rest rate : 52
threshold: 175 (never specifically tested. I use a power meter for tracking so this is just an estimate based on what I have seen during intervals)
Max : 201

Number400

-age: 44
-weight: 163
-resting heart rate: 42
-threshold heart rate: 183
-max heart rate: 202
-height: 6'1"

69chevy

-age = 35
-weight = 190lbs
-resting heart rate = 65
-threshold heart rate = 180
-max heart rate = 195
-height = 6'3"

99Klein 

Age: 51 (almost)
Weight: 220
Resting HR: 50
Threshold: estimate 150
Max HR: 182
Height : 6'1"

silversx80

Age: 33
Weight: 195 lbs
Resting HR: 50-ish
Threshold HR: 170-ish
Max HR: 195-ish
Height: 5' 11"... -ish

I'm not really sure about threshold and max HR at the moment. As I get back into cycling shape (went off on a body building kick for a few years, hence the weight) I've noticed my resting HR dropping again, as well as my threshold and max increasing. With max HR, the highest I've hit is 195, but my legs gave out first. I'm sure if they could have sustained for a few more seconds my observed max would have been over 200. Last time I hit max HR, about 5 years ago, I saw stars and the edges of my vision blackened (hit 222 bpm), and none of that recently.

Mandeville

Age 69

Height: 6'5"

Weight: 215

Resting HR: 50 most common. (48-52)

Threshold: Unknown

Max HR recorded cycling: 175

Recently did a 5 mile category 3 average 4 percent grade climb that from start to finish goes from very minimum grade that rather slowly but steadily increases as you climb with the biggest three stage jump the last mile finishing at a minimum of 11 percent. During that ride I recently monitored by HR during a max effort. My HR except for the steep finish fluctuated between 152 and 164. On the steep finish it hit 175.

GravelMN

Age: 52
Weight: 230
Resting HR: 56
Threshold HR: 163 (informal testing and subjective evaluation)
Max HR: 186 (on a bicycle. Most of the time I can't break 190)
Max Ever Recorded HR: 204 (On an elliptical trainer. I've only broken 200 twice and only for <30 seconds before I had to back down or risk passing out)
Height: 71"

bowzette

Age 69 (70 in 6 weeks)
Weight 143
Height 5'5"
Resting HR 47-48 if rested. 50-52 if low level of fatigue
Threshold HR 150 according to first Trainerroad test
Max HR on a bike 170 but it could be a few beats higher. I haven't tried to push to max this is what I've recorded on a few group rides in resent years.