Carbon fiber fail
09-28-15, 05:56 PM
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09-28-15, 06:08 PM
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Not to be inflammatory or anything like that, but my Italian bike, purchased in 1976 and my sole ride until 2004, now still my dominate ride, is made of columbus double butted steel, has been ridden 39 years, has over 240,000 miles on it, has ben crashed over a dozen times, once at 45 mph with multiple cartwheels, has had two paint jobs, on it's third campy grouppo and still is in perfect condition, just sayin....not trying to be inflammatory or anything...oh and guess what, I'm just as fast on it as my 16 lb CF TI Merlin.
09-28-15, 06:09 PM
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09-28-15, 06:10 PM
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A slightly different take on CF and very light steels and aluminums, especially in the fork/steerer/stem area: I've busted an aluminum fork and paid for it. Big time. I will not consciously ride equipment that will not take the abuse that is normal to bike riding or that may well happen as I work on it. That includes work done when I am behind on sleep, it is early morning or I am distracted.
I insist that everything from the butt-start forward on the top and down tubes be materials that aren't pushed to their limits, that can handle scratches and poorly torques screws, etc. Every fork I have ridden in the past 37 years has been steel. Only one higher tech/strength than 531 (and I feel more secure now that it has been replaced). I'd ride a ti front end by a reputable builder. Aluminum for the heavy old-school stems and handlebars which break so very rarely, even when very old and abused. Those get replaced when I start wondering.
I did the spill of that junior at the worlds only with two steps more severe bike failure and going 2X (at least) as fast. Never got my hands off the bars. Luckily I have no memory of it.
Ben
I insist that everything from the butt-start forward on the top and down tubes be materials that aren't pushed to their limits, that can handle scratches and poorly torques screws, etc. Every fork I have ridden in the past 37 years has been steel. Only one higher tech/strength than 531 (and I feel more secure now that it has been replaced). I'd ride a ti front end by a reputable builder. Aluminum for the heavy old-school stems and handlebars which break so very rarely, even when very old and abused. Those get replaced when I start wondering.
I did the spill of that junior at the worlds only with two steps more severe bike failure and going 2X (at least) as fast. Never got my hands off the bars. Luckily I have no memory of it.
Ben
09-28-15, 06:28 PM
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How often does the CF/Steel argument occur in this forum? Daily, weekly?
09-28-15, 06:39 PM
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09-28-15, 06:46 PM
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09-28-15, 06:52 PM
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Someone should make a list of all of the components that are made of carbon on bicycles. Then the posters that believe that steel is "real" and that crabon asplodes can check all of their carbon components off the list so at least they'll know where their next failure will happen.
09-28-15, 06:55 PM
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09-28-15, 07:02 PM
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09-28-15, 09:06 PM
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A slightly different take on CF and very light steels and aluminums, especially in the fork/steerer/stem area: I've busted an aluminum fork and paid for it. Big time. I will not consciously ride equipment that will not take the abuse that is normal to bike riding or that may well happen as I work on it. That includes work done when I am behind on sleep, it is early morning or I am distracted.
I insist that everything from the butt-start forward on the top and down tubes be materials that aren't pushed to their limits, that can handle scratches and poorly torques screws, etc. Every fork I have ridden in the past 37 years has been steel. Only one higher tech/strength than 531 (and I feel more secure now that it has been replaced). I'd ride a ti front end by a reputable builder. Aluminum for the heavy old-school stems and handlebars which break so very rarely, even when very old and abused. Those get replaced when I start wondering.
I did the spill of that junior at the worlds only with two steps more severe bike failure and going 2X (at least) as fast. Never got my hands off the bars. Luckily I have no memory of it.
Ben
I insist that everything from the butt-start forward on the top and down tubes be materials that aren't pushed to their limits, that can handle scratches and poorly torques screws, etc. Every fork I have ridden in the past 37 years has been steel. Only one higher tech/strength than 531 (and I feel more secure now that it has been replaced). I'd ride a ti front end by a reputable builder. Aluminum for the heavy old-school stems and handlebars which break so very rarely, even when very old and abused. Those get replaced when I start wondering.
I did the spill of that junior at the worlds only with two steps more severe bike failure and going 2X (at least) as fast. Never got my hands off the bars. Luckily I have no memory of it.
Ben
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