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Steel takes a hit: Breezer disco's Venturi and Lightning.

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Old 10-03-15, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by silvercivic27
i guess you were saying that you wish you could go back to the late 80s.
lol!
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Originally Posted by chasm54
I can't just imagine it, I can remember it. What makes you think it was worse back then?
Nothing in particular, just that I think that in general, people are more accepting today of a grown man riding a bike on the road with colored spandex then they were back in the late 80s, especially in certain parts of our country...although I would also argue that some parts haven't really changed all that much either, lol. Also, if Eurobike and Interbike are any indication, the fluorescent/neon fad is coming back in, so it will be like the late 80s once again! Except with less steel bikes, apparently
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i got the venturi frameset and built it into something light and sweet. i've ridden carbon and aluminum and they're part of the arsenal of bikes at my disposal. at 16.25lb, it isn't the lightest thing i ride, but as an everyday bike, it's spectacular; smooth over just about anything. found it's limitation for me on an 18% wall, just a bit flexy in the back end. i'd suspect most here wouldn't come close to reaching its limit.
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Originally Posted by StanSeven
Haha. I'm probably the oldest poster in this thread and you guys sound like my grandparents.
I doubt it... I think there are at least 3 guys here who are in their 40s.
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I doubt it... I think there are at least 3 guys here who are in their 40s.
LOL again!
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Originally Posted by chaadster
That wasn't much of a revival of the Breezer classics Venturi and Lightning, just three model years. They were cool bikes, particularly the Venturi, but apparently they just didn't find traction in the market.

Oh well...I wonder if Venturi will be remebered as a spark that revived a movement, as just an outlier, or not at all? Probably the latter, if I'm being honest, but it's too bad that such a brilliant road machine should end in anonymity.
Yeah. I really wanted to buy one but they aren't cheap so I was holding off until I could ride one Still waiting and looking ...
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Originally Posted by Silvercivic27
Nothing in particular, just that I think that in general, people are more accepting today of a grown man riding a bike on the road with colored spandex then they were back in the late 80s, especially in certain parts of our country..
Not sure how old you are, but most guys would be embarrassed walking around these days with shorts from the 80s:

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Originally Posted by Silvercivic27
I guess you were saying that you wish you could go back to the late 80s.
Nope. Try again.
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Originally Posted by gregf83
Not sure how old you are, but most guys would be embarrassed walking around these days with shorts from the 80s:

I don't know. These guys look ridiculous today. Looks like they're wearing pants too short.

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Originally Posted by Lazyass
I don't know. These guys look ridiculous today. Looks like they're wearing pants too short.

They seem to have trouble finding a happy medium.
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Originally Posted by gregf83
Not sure how old you are, but most guys would be embarrassed walking around these days with shorts from the 80s:

I alter my shorts to make them like that- All they seem to sell today are what we used to refer to as "Old-man Bermuda" shorts (In-fact, even they weren't as big and baggy as what people routinely wear today!)
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Originally Posted by StanSeven
I've had my share of steel and none compares with today's CF.
How so?
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I looked at the Venturi closely, but couldn't get past the geometry. A 15cm headtube on a 58? Who wants 10cm of spacers? --And no rack/fender mounts. Kills its versatility (and narrows its market) ...
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Originally Posted by superdex
I looked at the Venturi closely, but couldn't get past the geometry. A 15cm headtube on a 58? Who wants 10cm of spacers? --And no rack/fender mounts. Kills its versatility (and narrows its market) ...
It's a road racing frame, man. Not a comfort bike or commuter thingy.
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Originally Posted by StanSeven
Haha. I'm probably the oldest poster in this thread and you guys sound like my grandparents. I've had my share of steel and none compares with today's CF.
I keep telling these guys that we have a C&V subforum, but they insist on hanging out here.
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Originally Posted by chaadster
Breezer did, and does, a pretty lousy job of marketing their products, too, so in addition to fashion trends, a general lack of availability, lack of public awareness, and absence of a cohesive marketing strategy took a toll, too.l
Honestly, I had only ever heard of them on this forum. The paint jobs did leave a little bit to be desired for me. And before I bothered to look up their website after reading this post, I had zero idea that they even made anything other than road bikes, which they seem to not be making at all now.
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Originally Posted by superdex
I looked at the Venturi closely, but couldn't get past the geometry. A 15cm headtube on a 58? Who wants 10cm of spacers? --And no rack/fender mounts. Kills its versatility (and narrows its market) ...
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Originally Posted by gregf83
Not sure how old you are, but most guys would be embarrassed walking around these days with shorts from the 80s:

Matches today's men suits that look three sizes too small - even with the stretched buttons
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Sure is purty -- but too much handlebar drop for me, so I went elsewhere (and I was coming from a similarly-set up frame).

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Originally Posted by gregf83
Not sure how old you are, but most guys would be embarrassed walking around these days with shorts from the 80s:

What's old is new again. Every 20 something hipster in LA was wearing shorty shorts like that but i think its already out of style since kids attention span for trends is so short. Now overall jean shorts are back ala Kriss Kross from my high school days
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Originally Posted by WalksOn2Wheels
Honestly, I had only ever heard of them on this forum. The paint jobs did leave a little bit to be desired for me. And before I bothered to look up their website after reading this post, I had zero idea that they even made anything other than road bikes, which they seem to not be making at all now.
You should read up on Joe Breeze! He's a pioneer figure in the MTB scene, and a great transportation cycling advocate, in addition to being a smart, down-to-Earth guy who knows how to make cool bikes. I really like how heritage is a key concept to him, for example in the way the paint job and logo on the bike pictured up thread draws on design elements of the first Schwinn's that Joe modded for the Mt. Tam races.

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Originally Posted by chaadster
You should read up on Joe Breeze! He's a pioneer figure in the MTB scene, and a great transportation cycling advocate, in addition to being a smart, down-to-Earth guy who knows how to make cool bikes. I really like how heritage is a key concept to him, for example in the way the paint job and logo on the bike pictured up thread draws on design elements of the first Schwinn's that Joe modded for the Mt. Tam races.

Here's a cool vid on Joe:

https://youtu.be/3Zph8tcxTqI
The worst part is that I actually knew who Joe Breeze was and hadn't made a connection between him and Breezer until I looked at the website and saw the Repack model.
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Originally Posted by Lazyass
It's a road racing frame, man. Not a comfort bike or commuter thingy.
True, but Giant's aggressive road bike has an 18.5 cm head tube for the similar size (L). The 15 cm head tube is spec'ed on the M (54).
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
True, but Giant's aggressive road bike has an 18.5 cm head tube for the similar size (L). The 15 cm head tube is spec'ed on the M (54).
Eh, a couple of spacers difference. My 54 (M) Focus has a 13.5 headtube. I have five spacers and my bars are higher than most members bikes I see on here. I like my tips centered on the HT. If I flipped my stem around the tops would be almost level with the saddle.

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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
True, but Giant's aggressive road bike has an 18.5 cm head tube for the similar size (L). The 15 cm head tube is spec'ed on the M (54).
I suspect, and would hope, that Joe's head tube spec was driven by performance, handling, application, and rider considerations rather than considering length relative to other manufacturers.
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