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    Specialized? Good? Not mentioned here much

    Hello:

    I've been reading alot of the threads here, trying to learn about Road Biking, etc. I've noticed alot of different brands being mentioned often (Felt, Trek, Cannondale).

    It seems that Specialized bikes are not mentioned as often (in the Road Bike forum). Is there a specific reason? Their road bikes not as good? (I ride a Specialized mtn bike and am very happy with it).
    Thanks!

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    I've been on the search for a new (my first roadie) and I've been seriously considering the allez elite. It looks like I very promising bike, but alas, I'm a newb.

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    Yes, I think they're fine bikes and underrated; at least, down here they are.

    I think they suffer a bit because of their "Stumpjumper" routes amongst us snobbish roadies.
    They seem to get thrown into the "they're just mass produced, Taiwanese bikes" thing (although, I'm not sure where they're made), along with Giants.

    http://www.specialized.com/bc/company_history.jsp?a=b

    I've owned two, cheap, late 90s alu Specialized Allez frames that were great -- I've still got one of them.
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    I see alot of racers using Specialized bikes around my area. They are a great company and I love the tires the S-Works Mondo tires are sweet.
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    specialized makes great bikes. in my opinion, they make the best aluminum framed bikes of any american company. [sorry, 'dalers.]

    the bang for buck is impressive, and with the introduction of the columbus slx frame at the allez elite level this year, even moreso. if i was going to buy an aluminum frame, it would absolutely certainly be a specialized s-works e-5... and i keep thinking about it.

    their cf bikes are also excellent. the roubaix is the class of its field among more comfort-oriented road bikes. trek even copied the design for its pilot line, and the tarmac bikes are very, very nice.

    oddly enough, the tarmac that impresses me the most is the tarmac e-5. this is an amazing speinter's bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by velocipedio
    specialized makes great bikes. in my opinion, they make the best aluminum framed bikes of any american company. [sorry, 'dalers.]
    Specialized is an "American company" in name only. All of their bikes are made in Taiwan. Most of their accessories are made in Asia as well (a few in Europe).

    I agree that Specialized has some very nice road bikes. They usually come in more sizes than Giant (the other big Taiwanese company), so they are easier to fit. They have a good selection of performance oriented road bikes and more recreational bikes in various price ranges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny99
    Specialized is an "American company" in name only. All of their bikes are made in Taiwan. Most of their accessories are made in Asia as well (a few in Europe).
    i didn't say that their bikes were american-made, only that it was an american company.

    italian aluminum, taiwanese welders and american designers can make primo bikes.
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    I've had to come to grips with the fact that most of my opinions regarding which bicycle brands are superior are mostly based on bias rather than any objective fact that I can put my finger on. Consequently, I avoid stating those opinions because mine aren't any more valid than anybody else's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
    I've had to come to grips with the fact that most of my opinions regarding which bicycle brands are superior are mostly based on bias rather than any objective fact that I can put my finger on. Consequently, I avoid stating those opinions because mine aren't any more valid than anybody else's.
    This the best response ever to any thread in any forum on the internet ever. I am going to copy it for my future responses.

    I think Specialized bikes are pretty damned good, especially for an entry-level bike. I would bet that if you test-ride a few different bikes from a few different companies, you will find that for the price, Specialized is the way to go.

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    I have a schwinn, cannondale, and now the main ride is an 04 Allez Comp, really like the specialized, rode the heck out of all 3, enjoyed each in their prime. In fact I turned the cannondale into a commuter about 2 months ago, still a nice bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mister_hl
    Hello:

    I've been reading alot of the threads here, trying to learn about Road Biking, etc. I've noticed alot of different brands being mentioned often (Felt, Trek, Cannondale).

    It seems that Specialized bikes are not mentioned as often (in the Road Bike forum). Is there a specific reason? Their road bikes not as good? (I ride a Specialized mtn bike and am very happy with it).
    There have been endless threads regarding Specialized bikes. They are incredibly popular and fine bikes. I happen to own two of them - A Roubaix Pro and a Sequoia Elite. My girlfriend rides a Specialized Dolce. If you do a forum search you will find enough reading material on Specialized bikes to last you most of the afternoon!
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    i rode a specialized allez for almost a year. I really like it and thought it was an excellent bike to start on, as the fitting is somewhat easier sicne they are compact frames. I have now moved to a traditional frame in the version of a Felt. The bang for the buck in both of these brands are great. It all depends on which one rides better and feels better... your choice.

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    They got purty bikes.
    Touch every 3rd person and you'll find an idiot.

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    Maybe the Specialized owners are all out riding

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    Specialized is a sort of cultish bike ownership society from what I've noticed. There are a few who swear by their stuff without reservation.

    It probably has something to do with the fact that you can pretty much dress yourself and your bike from head to toe and wheel to wheel in Specialized branded equipment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro Grouch
    I've had to come to grips with the fact that most of my opinions regarding which bicycle brands are superior are mostly based on bias rather than any objective fact that I can put my finger on. Consequently, I avoid stating those opinions because mine aren't any more valid than anybody else's.
    Seriously though. Who makes a noticeably inferior aluminum frame among the major manufacturers?
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    i have had several specialized bikes and a lot of their gear, and now they're one of my sponsors. I have always loved their products and have never had any problems with any of their bikes or gear. Right now i'm riding a cro-mo allez with a nice specialized carbon fork and zertz seat post, and i love the ride quality. The steel sucks up the big stuff and the carbon helps out with the road buzz, and it's stiff enough for big gear sprints and climbs. So, it's a grear performance bike that i can easily ride on long trips, which makes it perfect (by the way, i'm not biased at all )

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    My 0.02 Canadian Pesos..., Long but hopefully informative.

    Specilized and other large companies like Giant and Trek produces and sells so many bikes, that they get much better pricing from component manufacturers than the little boutique builders. Top Taiwan welders are just as good as top American or Italian welders but get paid a fraction of thier salaries. These savings are partially passed onto the consumer. Perhaps this creates the stigmitism of being a cheap, poorly produced bikes.

    Incidentally, Taiwan factories are amongst the most advanced in the world. Large manufactureres like Specialized and Giant have the most advanced, state of the art machinery and the most buying power. While the boutique builder purchases "off the shelf tubing" from thier suppliers inventory, Specialzed has a lot of thier tubing custom formed for each specific frame design. Were not only talking about custom extrusions but they have cold forged tubes for certain bikes. Let me explain; When aluminum is extruded, the grain structure of the metal is aligned the much like the grain of wood is. It is stronger in certain directions than others. With cold forging, they take that extruded aluminum, stick it in a mold and smack it with thousands of tons of force. The aluminum turns to liquid for a second, forms to the mold and instantly hardens. The molecular structure is reorganized and the metal is equally strong in all direcitons. Taiwan factories do this for a price far less than American manufacturers can afford to do it.

    Specialized, being a huge company, can also afford to invest huge bucks in thier R&D where as a small custom builder, can not. Specialized employs a deparment of engineers and designers that equal the entire payrole of some boutique builders. The large bike companies are the most technologically advanced of all builders.

    The only thing the large manufacturers can not do well is in the bling factor of having a boutique lablel on the side of the down tube cause they have produced kids bikes, super affordable entry level bikes, mid priced and to high end world class frames that are affordable for the general population. A lot of folks only remember the kids bikes and entry level stuff and associate that to thier high end stuff. Where as companies like Colnago, Mercks, DeRossa, Moots, Merlin, Pinnarello, Torelli has never mass produced a kids or entry level bike.

    BTW: Colnago is moving all manufacturing aside from thier top bikes to Taiwan this year.

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    You probably don't hear much from mass produced bike owners becasue everytime they say somethng they get the "Hmmf, your bike was made in Taiwan, therefore its sheit" routine from boutique bike owners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by late
    Maybe the Specialized owners are all out riding
    Exactly.
    I've got the Specialized Tarmac Comp..
    WOOO!
    It's a blast. I'm sure I'd have the same fun with any other bike... but... I like what I have.

    I see a lot of people with Allez, a good alum bike for cheap.
    I haven't seen anyone with a S-Works Tarmac or E5; but it sure would be a treat for the eyes

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudobrit
    Specialized is a sort of cultish bike ownership society from what I've noticed. There are a few who swear by their stuff without reservation.

    It probably has something to do with the fact that you can pretty much dress yourself and your bike from head to toe and wheel to wheel in Specialized branded equipment.
    Boy i'll say. Glad you never see that with Trek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shokhead
    Boy i'll say. Glad you never see that with Trek.
    Yeah, Trek's gets a little more respect than the other large manufacurers because of that guy that has won some famous race over in Europe like 6 times in a row. Imagine how Specialized or Giant would be viewed if he rode one of thier bikes? Hell, imagine what respect Redline, Huffy or Supercycle would get if he won those races on thier bikes. Which by the way is totally possible because I hear that he is actually a robot with super human power. This thing with Sheryl Crow is just a clever front to make seem more human.

    Aside from thier Madones and 5000 series, I beleive the rest of Trek's road bikes are made in Taiwan.

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    I would never buy a bike or a car because of someone that races or drives it,that would be very stupit.
    Touch every 3rd person and you'll find an idiot.

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    I don't mean to restart the "under 700" thread, but really any bike mentioned here and not soild in *mart will be at least a decent bike. When you're looking at a bike of this level I think it's best to try as many out and choose based on the ride "feel" and they're verry different. I own a Specalized Allez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simplyred
    Exactly.
    I've got the Specialized Tarmac Comp..
    WOOO!
    It's a blast. I'm sure I'd have the same fun with any other bike... but... I like what I have.

    I see a lot of people with Allez, a good alum bike for cheap.
    I haven't seen anyone with a S-Works Tarmac or E5; but it sure would be a treat for the eyes
    I'll first admit I am a Specialized "brand *****" currently with five of their bikes in the garage. I have been riding & racing a Roubiax Comp (crashed it in a crit today), but just picked up an S-works E5 on Friday. The E5 is an extremely stiff bike, more so than the Tarmac, and it very easy to look at!

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    I love my Allez Elite. Take a peak at my signature and you will see my aliance. Another reason for that alliance is my awesome LBS carries them.

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