Braking in a paceline...
11-10-15, 11:26 AM
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So it's ok to brake in the paceline as long as you have disc brakes?
11-10-15, 11:36 AM
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Sigh... 98 more pages until the party starts.
11-10-15, 12:01 PM
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11-10-15, 12:10 PM
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11-10-15, 12:20 PM
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Clearly. The thread wasn't "inexplicably" closed. The explanation was quite clearly stated. It's as if that thread was a paceline in RAAM and you kept hitting the brakes, ignoring all warnings & now the race has been shut down. Well done. Your strong views & intense need to argue didn't trump the warning to stop. If you were 12 this would be a timeout. Guilt is often followed by a penalty. Sometimes life doesn't seem fair. I'm sure if you ask nicely you'll still get a participation ribbon.
11-10-15, 12:22 PM
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We don't want noobs braking in our paceline. That's why we require they disconnect their brakes prior to start up. Safety first.
11-10-15, 12:22 PM
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, I'll scooch to the side, halfwheel and close the distance, until I can grab their seatpost slowing them down further, and then slide in front. All sorts of things you can do and have paceline fun!
11-10-15, 12:25 PM
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Of course, the inferior rim brake brethren can't pick up on the subtlety and nuance of deh superior modulation...unless of course someone doesn't know how to maintain the hermetic purity of the discs surface.
11-10-15, 12:40 PM
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Clearly. The thread wasn't "inexplicably" closed. The explanation was quite clearly stated. It's as if that thread was a paceline in RAAM and you kept hitting the brakes, ignoring all warnings & now the race has been shut down. Well done. Your strong views & intense need to argue didn't trump the warning to stop. If you were 12 this would be a timeout. Guilt is often followed by a penalty. Sometimes life doesn't seem fair. I'm sure if you ask nicely you'll still get a participation ribbon.
I obviously didn't see any admonition or I wouldn't have commented. I haven't been following that thread and simply clicked on to the last page and commented on braking in a paceline and then the thread was closed. I don't think I have posted 5 times in that thread of 100 pgs.
You need to get a clue.
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11-10-15, 12:41 PM
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11-10-15, 12:49 PM
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People are usually braking because they pedal too hard and need to bleed off speed. So the person behind them sees them jamming on the gas and they also give it the gas to maintain distance. Oh man, things are really heating up! The guy behind can't really see that far ahead. then Screeeeech! they jam on their brakes so the guy behind realizes he just wasted effort. Then they hit the gas again because they don't know how to ride their bike.
This is why I avoid the big group rides in the area. Half the people can't ride a bike worth a flying fubar and they are on tri bikes which are double scary.
Give me a faithful few, three or four companions who know how to ride, and we'll ride.
This is why I avoid the big group rides in the area. Half the people can't ride a bike worth a flying fubar and they are on tri bikes which are double scary.
Give me a faithful few, three or four companions who know how to ride, and we'll ride.
There is a CAT2 who rides with us from time to time....one of the fastest time trialers in the state...and he doesn't need the draft of the paceline which averages 22mph or so depending on wind. He tags along off the back or does 25 mph pulls for miles. Weaker riders are the opposite and constantly over accelerate and then brake. These riders exist in most pacelines.
11-10-15, 12:50 PM
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Ha ha ha, self loathing. I read your last two posts on that thread and many, many more of your contributions. Which is worse, self loathing or self aggrandizing?
11-10-15, 12:54 PM
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I would not read this thread for a Klondike bar.
11-10-15, 01:00 PM
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What difference does it make which is worse? Why don't you try being a bit friendlier? A basic concept. Your initial response to me in the last thread is I can't read. You are just being rude. No I didn't see any admonition if it was there prior because I didn't click on the thread previously.
11-10-15, 01:17 PM
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11-10-15, 01:19 PM
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What difference does it make which is worse? Why don't you try being a bit friendlier? A basic concept. Your initial response to me in the last thread is I can't read. You are just being rude. No I didn't see any admonition if it was there prior because I didn't click on the thread previously.
We could all stand to be a little less combative, but the hyperbolic assumptions that people make on here tend to draw hyperbolic responses.
11-10-15, 01:49 PM
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People are usually braking because they pedal too hard and need to bleed off speed. So the person behind them sees them jamming on the gas and they also give it the gas to maintain distance. Oh man, things are really heating up! The guy behind can't really see that far ahead. then Screeeeech! they jam on their brakes so the guy behind realizes he just wasted effort. Then they hit the gas again because they don't know how to ride their bike.
This is why I avoid the big group rides in the area. Half the people can't ride a bike worth a flying fubar and they are on tri bikes which are double scary.
Give me a faithful few, three or four companions who know how to ride, and we'll ride.
This is why I avoid the big group rides in the area. Half the people can't ride a bike worth a flying fubar and they are on tri bikes which are double scary.
Give me a faithful few, three or four companions who know how to ride, and we'll ride.
It doesn't need to be a big group to have that one rider that needs to surge, peddle, brake, coast to make sure they don't lose the wheel in front of them. Drives me bonkers to be behind this guy. I've pulled beside riders like this to explain how their action is causing the yo-yo effect and how they can prevent it. You can either avoid them, or try to educate. Some learn quickly, others will never get it.
11-10-15, 02:12 PM
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11-10-15, 02:13 PM
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I though this is 50+ forum where everyone here is supposed to mellow a bit with age .
11-10-15, 02:15 PM
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Tri bikes are usually not allowed in our group rides since most are too sketchy. There have been exceptions, but they need to stay off the bars unless up front.
It doesn't need to be a big group to have that one rider that needs to surge, peddle, brake, coast to make sure they don't lose the wheel in front of them. Drives me bonkers to be behind this guy. I've pulled beside riders like this to explain how their action is causing the yo-yo effect and how they can prevent it. You can either avoid them, or try to educate. Some learn quickly, others will never get it.
It doesn't need to be a big group to have that one rider that needs to surge, peddle, brake, coast to make sure they don't lose the wheel in front of them. Drives me bonkers to be behind this guy. I've pulled beside riders like this to explain how their action is causing the yo-yo effect and how they can prevent it. You can either avoid them, or try to educate. Some learn quickly, others will never get it.