Trainer Riding Boredom, how do you deal with it?
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I listen to loud rock music, but I don't want any distractions. I ride my rollers to improve my conditioning, my bike handling, and my pedal stroke. Doing those things takes all my concentration. I'd no more watch TV on my rollers than I'd text in a paceline. If you're bored, you're not paying nearly enough attention to what's going on. Where are your heels? Where is your butt? What does your back look like? How and where are your knees tracking? Where is your head? Where are you looking? What's your HR? Can you make it go down by altering your position? What's your speed or power? When is the interval over/starting? Where is the pain? Can you make it go away by doing something different? Are you thirsty? Hungry? Where are your hands? How much bend in your elbows? Are your shoulder blades down your back? Is it time to stand? There's no end to the things to which you are supposed to be paying attention but aren't. Or do you just not give a **** and would rather go to the movies?
When I'm mid-interval on the trainer, I'll just be staring at my HR number and my stopwatch without the ability to pay much attention to the TV, but I don't spend the entire trainer session at 180 bpm and the TV helps distract me during the non-interval stretches.
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Intervals on the trainer with headphones and some metalcore or other aggressive music.
But the weather is nice here, so I haven't done indoor for quite a while.
I recall doing 3 hr z2 rollers while rehabbing fractures last year though. Just music.
But the weather is nice here, so I haven't done indoor for quite a while.
I recall doing 3 hr z2 rollers while rehabbing fractures last year though. Just music.
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A century ride on Zwift could be 'interesting' I suppose.
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Man, I feel sorry for y'all. I can hop on the trainer or stationary and knock out an hour in silence, with nothing more to look at than the power, HR, cadence, and clock on the Garmin.
I do ride to structured plans, however, so I have exact "maps" for every minute of the entire ride, with duration, target power, and cadence. And it's never all the same; maybe it's a 10min warmup, followed by a 5min L4+10w @ 85-90rpm, followed by 5min L2 @ 80-85rpm, into a 10min block @ L3 85-90, etc. Perhaps having a plan to follow makes all the difference in terms of engagement. I have the ride written out on a sheet right in front of the handlebars.
I ride a trainer all year round, too, at least 2 one-hour sessions per week, usually three, plus outdoor rides all year round, too (unless it's really subzero and nasty, but rain, cold, snow no problem). I'm starting year four of this routine.
Zwift, this past year, has really added a fun dimension to some of my trainer rides, and, especially in spring as I near the first crit of the season, I really enjoy watching forum member Carpediemracing's YouTube videos of his bike cam from his crit races; gets me hyped! I also love the on-screen commentary he does, explaining tactics and what's going on in the race, so call 'em educational, too!
I tried Sufferfest, but the music is like being at an a**hole frat party at some backwater, country college. Sucks. Real bad. That, and for someone accustomed to working to numbers, the RPE thing they do just doesn't cut it for me.
I do ride to structured plans, however, so I have exact "maps" for every minute of the entire ride, with duration, target power, and cadence. And it's never all the same; maybe it's a 10min warmup, followed by a 5min L4+10w @ 85-90rpm, followed by 5min L2 @ 80-85rpm, into a 10min block @ L3 85-90, etc. Perhaps having a plan to follow makes all the difference in terms of engagement. I have the ride written out on a sheet right in front of the handlebars.
I ride a trainer all year round, too, at least 2 one-hour sessions per week, usually three, plus outdoor rides all year round, too (unless it's really subzero and nasty, but rain, cold, snow no problem). I'm starting year four of this routine.
Zwift, this past year, has really added a fun dimension to some of my trainer rides, and, especially in spring as I near the first crit of the season, I really enjoy watching forum member Carpediemracing's YouTube videos of his bike cam from his crit races; gets me hyped! I also love the on-screen commentary he does, explaining tactics and what's going on in the race, so call 'em educational, too!
I tried Sufferfest, but the music is like being at an a**hole frat party at some backwater, country college. Sucks. Real bad. That, and for someone accustomed to working to numbers, the RPE thing they do just doesn't cut it for me.
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Aside getting bike fit adjustments, the only time I ever rode anything like a trainer was on a stationary bike when getting a 5-10 minute warm-up at the gym, or when I had a broken shoulder and didn't feel stable or safe on the bike. With the broken shoulder, I could manage an hour, not including warm-up and cool-down, but HATED it. I'd be watching the news in the morning, and would set the thing up to do intervals. I wouldn't necessarily pay attention to the news; I'd often think the kinds of things @Carbonfiberboy was going on about. Not sure I'd call it boredom exactly, but it was very frustrating being so 'stuck there.' And very sweaty. I never sweat so much in my life.
But as much as I hated riding a stationary bike, I've been thinking of getting some rollers. If it were just about riding, I would definitely ride outside, even in the coldest weather (though icy roads are, naturally, a non-starter), but since it is about training, I figure rollers would provide opportunities for a little handling training as well. Funny thing about riding in cold weather; just getting out there and riding seems like work enough; thoughts of focused training just don't come to mind. Riding through the winter, I didn't feel I got any better, merely avoided getting worse.
But as much as I hated riding a stationary bike, I've been thinking of getting some rollers. If it were just about riding, I would definitely ride outside, even in the coldest weather (though icy roads are, naturally, a non-starter), but since it is about training, I figure rollers would provide opportunities for a little handling training as well. Funny thing about riding in cold weather; just getting out there and riding seems like work enough; thoughts of focused training just don't come to mind. Riding through the winter, I didn't feel I got any better, merely avoided getting worse.
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Aside getting bike fit adjustments, the only time I ever rode anything like a trainer was on a stationary bike when getting a 5-10 minute warm-up at the gym, or when I had a broken shoulder and didn't feel stable or safe on the bike. With the broken shoulder, I could manage an hour, not including warm-up and cool-down, but HATED it. I'd be watching the news in the morning, and would set the thing up to do intervals. I wouldn't necessarily pay attention to the news; I'd often think the kinds of things @Carbonfiberboy was going on about. Not sure I'd call it boredom exactly, but it was very frustrating being so 'stuck there.' And very sweaty. I never sweat so much in my life.
But as much as I hated riding a stationary bike, I've been thinking of getting some rollers. If it were just about riding, I would definitely ride outside, even in the coldest weather (though icy roads are, naturally, a non-starter), but since it is about training, I figure rollers would provide opportunities for a little handling training as well. Funny thing about riding in cold weather; just getting out there and riding seems like work enough; thoughts of focused training just don't come to mind. Riding through the winter, I didn't feel I got any better, merely avoided getting worse.
But as much as I hated riding a stationary bike, I've been thinking of getting some rollers. If it were just about riding, I would definitely ride outside, even in the coldest weather (though icy roads are, naturally, a non-starter), but since it is about training, I figure rollers would provide opportunities for a little handling training as well. Funny thing about riding in cold weather; just getting out there and riding seems like work enough; thoughts of focused training just don't come to mind. Riding through the winter, I didn't feel I got any better, merely avoided getting worse.
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That said, resistance rollers are a lot more fun than that exercise bike in the gym. Fun is good too. I think a good set of intervals on the rollers where I kept hitting my numbers is fun. I'll have a big grin after.
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The secret to a short life is to not do the work or make the decisions necessary to prolong it. The secret to a long healthy life is to never give up, never surrender to those voices in your head that tell you to quit or to eat those cookies. They'll get stronger every year if you let them. Like I always tell my workout partners, "If it weren't hard we wouldn't be doing it." That's how you know you're doing it right.
That said, resistance rollers are a lot more fun than that exercise bike in the gym. Fun is good too. I think a good set of intervals on the rollers where I kept hitting my numbers is fun. I'll have a big grin after.
That said, resistance rollers are a lot more fun than that exercise bike in the gym. Fun is good too. I think a good set of intervals on the rollers where I kept hitting my numbers is fun. I'll have a big grin after.
Not without studded tires, and not without its own garage; I wouldn't want to have to look at it. Maybe if I had a cabin in the Catskills or the Poconos I'd get one, you know, in lieu of an ATV.
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I (and the few other riders I know who do serious trainer volume in the dead of winter) come out of my basement in much better condition in the spring than even my co-riders who ride their fat bikes outside instead. There is nothing at all abstract about the power and endurance advantages.
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TrainerRoad and old Indy 500's, Daytona 500's, and any other races that shrike your fancy. Good noise, and it doesn't take a lot of concentration to follow what's going on.
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The only downside of riding Zwift for me is when I ride outside again, I'm reminded of all the times I have to stop at intersections.
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Recently indoors has become the norm and riding outside just for special occasions (group ride, visible Sun, etc.)
Going with a KICKR the problem I've had to deal with recently is choosing which road to take -- Trainer Road, Zwift, Perfpro (with Sufferfest, Netflix or whatever), or the dozen other options available.
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I (and the few other riders I know who do serious trainer volume in the dead of winter) come out of my basement in much better condition in the spring than even my co-riders who ride their fat bikes outside instead. There is nothing at all abstract about the power and endurance advantages.
Sure, numbers on a screen indicate real power and endurance, and can be encouraging and rewarding, but they don't quite overcome the inane, confining feeling of the activity that makes me, for one, significantly devalue potential improvements. Virtual rides (watching a screen of a real route, with effort varying according to elevation changes shown) was preferable to warming up on an ordinary stationary bike, but it convinced me to get OUT of the gym and onto a real bike. I'd rather climb hills and sprint down flat roads all day long than spend even 30 minutes getting any "exercise."
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Last night I rode a group ride on Zwift with Ted King. It was a lot of fun and I rode hard without even thinking about it. My questions is, how do you get into that Zen zone on a trainer without virtual interaction? I have a real problem with boredom and my motivation to push myself when I'm bored.
I'm really curious where others go mentally while riding on a trainer.
I'm really curious where others go mentally while riding on a trainer.
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I did two 2:15 rides this weekend. Next weekend is two 2:30 rides. I have to admit they are as much a mental challenge as a physical one; but my goal of being back in shape this spring (was hit by a car in '14, broken back and ripped up knee) keeps me going.
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I think while I am riding "do I want a salad or a cheeseburger for dinner ?" The answer dictates the length of my suffering on the trainer.
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