Would you lend your expensive carbon road bike to a colleague or acquaintance?
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Of course I would. Just the same as my car. With the understanding the borrower takes responsibility for the bike or car in every way above and beyond any insurance coverage. Not understanding that it IS ONLY A BIKE is a serious problem for you.
And by the way, I wouldn't have a spare bike or a primary bike. I wouldn't have a less desirable an a more desirable bike. They are all the same to me, or they are gone.
And by the way, I wouldn't have a spare bike or a primary bike. I wouldn't have a less desirable an a more desirable bike. They are all the same to me, or they are gone.
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I'd never ask someone else, even if it's a close friend, to borrow his carbon bike, regardless of how much it's worth. Not that I don't trust myself to take care of it, because I'd take more caution with it than my own bike, but just don't want to put him in an awkward and uncomfortable position. So, I wouldn't lend it out, and I hope that a close friend wouldn't put me in that same awkward position.
A colleague or acquaintance? Hells, no!
A colleague or acquaintance? Hells, no!
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There are broader questions that are just as telling if not more so. What would you lend to a friend, your cousin, your BROTHER-IN-LAW? Forget the colleague BS. Just friends and family. If this were just about bikes, that would surprise me. How tightly clamped shut around your possessions is your fist? How overspecified and overpriced relative to your finances are your possessions? How jealous of those possessions are you? How thoroughly do they define you? Aren't those the real questions?
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There is one woman in my work group that I would lend one of my less expensive bikes to--after taking out the QR skewers and loosening the bolts that secure the brake cables.
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How come most of us, but not all, know that is something that should never appear in print, even when followed by a ?
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Earlier this year, I purchased a fat-bike (Norco Bigfoot 6.1).
Since I purchased the bike, everyone asks to borrow it for an afternoon, part of the weekend,... when I may not be using it.
I do lend it out.
Now I have just ordered a Specialized Diverge Expert, a $5000 (Canadian dollars) carbon road bike.
I know everyone at work will want to ride it; or at least "try it". Would you lend your expensive bike to an acquaintance or colleague at work?
If your colleague or acquaintance crashes your $5000 bike, cracking your carbon frame, would you hold him/her responsible?
Since I purchased the bike, everyone asks to borrow it for an afternoon, part of the weekend,... when I may not be using it.
I do lend it out.
Now I have just ordered a Specialized Diverge Expert, a $5000 (Canadian dollars) carbon road bike.
I know everyone at work will want to ride it; or at least "try it". Would you lend your expensive bike to an acquaintance or colleague at work?
If your colleague or acquaintance crashes your $5000 bike, cracking your carbon frame, would you hold him/her responsible?
And my colleagues and acquaintances wouldn't be so rude as to ask.
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This is a fine state we are in: valuing our things more than our friends. Thinking that a request to ride your bike is rude. I have a good friend to whom, by the way, I would lend anything. She has a powerful philosophy that she sums up this way, "It ain't a kidney."
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There are broader questions that are just as telling if not more so. What would you lend to a friend, your cousin, your BROTHER-IN-LAW? Forget the colleague BS. Just friends and family. If this were just about bikes, that would surprise me. How tightly clamped shut around your possessions is your fist? How overspecified and overpriced relative to your finances are your possessions? How jealous of those possessions are you? How thoroughly do they define you? Aren't those the real questions?
Quit playing armchair therapist.
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Fortunately, the most my colleagues and acquaintances will ask to borrow might be an office pen.
They wouldn't have the audacity to stroll up to me and ask to ride one of my bicycles.
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Good point. I have just been imagining situations similar to when I would let a close acquaintance (not necessarily friend) ride my motorcycle. He had a motorcycle, too, and we each wanted to see what the other was like, or just "mix it up a bit," because our bikes were different. I even let a perfect stranger ride my motorcycle once. We were in a big parking lot just doing manoeuvering drills. But yeah, a colleague coming up out of the blue and asking to ride one of my bikes for fun? That would indeed be very rude.
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I'll admit your point. I am pushing the conversation toward closer friends and relations. But as for colleagues and acquaintances I would still be proud that they asked and would be pleased to let them try out my bike. I'm not talking about lending it out for a couple of years.
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Of course I would! With the understanding, that if ANYTHING is wrong after their use, the only option they have is REPLACEMENT!
The only exception would be kids and grandkids!
The only exception would be kids and grandkids!
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Good point. I have just been imagining situations similar to when I would let a close acquaintance (not necessarily friend) ride my motorcycle. He had a motorcycle, too, and we each wanted to see what the other was like, or just "mix it up a bit," because our bikes were different. I even let a perfect stranger ride my motorcycle once. We were in a big parking lot just doing manoeuvering drills. But yeah, a colleague coming up out of the blue and asking to ride one of my bikes for fun? That would indeed be very rude.
I'll admit your point. I am pushing the conversation toward closer friends and relations. But as for colleagues and acquaintances I would still be proud that they asked and would be pleased to let them try out my bike. I'm not talking about lending it out for a couple of years.
Fortunately, they don't have the gall to do something like that.
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Everyone I associate with is a cyclist, and at least 2 sizes smaller, so the question is moot.
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Colleague or acquaintance, no.
Friend, yes.
I would lend my bike or my car or just about anything to any of my friends in a second. They have watched my children at one time or another. Why in the world would I not lend them a piece of metal with wheels on it regardless of how expensive it cost?
Friend, yes.
I would lend my bike or my car or just about anything to any of my friends in a second. They have watched my children at one time or another. Why in the world would I not lend them a piece of metal with wheels on it regardless of how expensive it cost?
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The only way you should lend your bike to another is with the understanding that it might break, they might crash, it might get stolen & you're ok with dealing with it yourself. Otherwise don't do it. It's like lending money, don't do it unless you're ok with never seeing the money again. How else can you deal with it if your friend takes your bike & something really bad happens & he says he was just riding along? You see fault, he sees normal use. The frame was due to fail, he did nothing wrong. It's a great way to ruin a friendship, whether he replaces it or not. Either way, one party is pissed. Much easier to just say you don't lend your bike. But if you truly believe that a bike is just at thing and it can be replaced whereas a friendship cannot, then you lend it with the understanding that you may have to replace this thing yourself.
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My Coworker: Chris, can I borrow your bike Saturday to see if I will like riding?
Me: Sure, can I borrow your Mustang Saturday night to see if I like Fords or not.
He's never asked again.
Yes it's just a bike, but it's my bike, it's expensive and if something happened to it, it would be hard for me to replace at this time in my life. Not to mention if something happened to him while riding it. That would be terrible for everyone.
Me: Sure, can I borrow your Mustang Saturday night to see if I like Fords or not.
He's never asked again.
Yes it's just a bike, but it's my bike, it's expensive and if something happened to it, it would be hard for me to replace at this time in my life. Not to mention if something happened to him while riding it. That would be terrible for everyone.