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are 'new' aluminum frames really better than the old?

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Old 01-19-16, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dr_lha
All joking aside though, if that Emonda had disc brakes it would weigh a lot closer to the roadhouse.
Domane Asploder disc is 16.5 lbs
If they made an Emonda ALR disc, it would probably have a lb or so penalty.
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Originally Posted by dr_lha
All joking aside though, if that Emonda had disc brakes it would weigh a lot closer to the roadhouse.
Actually, that was sort of my point: the Roadhouse isn't heavy because it's poorly made, it's heavy because it's a completely different type of bike that prioritizes versatility and a smooth, stable ride over featherweightedness. Choosing discs over calipers is one of many elements of that. Other elements are such things as the inclusion of rack mount braze-ons, 30c rims+tires, eyelets, a bolt post over the rear wheel for mounting fenders, etc.
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Originally Posted by HTupolev
Actually, that was sort of my point: the Roadhouse isn't heavy because it's poorly made, it's heavy because it's a completely different type of bike that prioritizes versatility and a smooth, stable ride over featherweightedness. Choosing discs over calipers is one of many elements of that. Other elements are such things as the inclusion of rack mount braze-ons, 30c rims+tires, eyelets, a bolt post over the rear wheel for mounting fenders, etc.
agree.
It's kind of like the carbon gravel and cx disc bikes that weigh 17lbs
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