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Old 01-11-16, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001
Yeah - there's no events around here for a while and everyone is in the gym. Therefore: off season. Sucks.
My daughter just landed at ORD a couple hours ago. I know.
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Old 01-11-16, 06:38 PM
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Once you're at 1960's tech it matters very little...
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Originally Posted by OnyxTiger

I've seen 1996 Supras dust off some Lamborghini Gallardos at a rolling 60. The brand of car only told a very very minute part of the story. Same application here.
Lol. The late '90s Supras had one of the most insanely hot-roddable engines ever made, the 2jz. With comparatively little money, I have seen them pull well over 1100hp on a dynamometer, which is a very different proposition that modern car makers' hyped-up bhp claims. I'm not suprised the Supra ate the lambo, it probably had double the horsepower, and as long as the driver knew how to get it to the road...bye bye!

(Ot, I know, but you said Supra!)
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Originally Posted by Doge
My daughter just landed at ORD a couple hours ago. I know.
She wasn't getting home last night I don't think. Molly Cameron put out a rescue all from the airport last night. My shop is about 20-30 minutes from ORD with traffic. It was nasty here last night.
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Once you're at 1960's tech it matters very little...
I appreciate the graphs, but if you have access to numbers that would help. I agree it matters very little, but races - esp the TT's are won by very very little. Also, the last few years UCI bikes are heavier than they were, as are the wheels. I would expect a pro riding a WW bike to get up Alpe D'Huez a wee faster than riding his team bike in a TT. The difference in a cassette weight can DQ a rider in a UCI race, so it matters to UCI at least.
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Originally Posted by Psimet2001
She wasn't getting home last night I don't think. Molly Cameron put out a rescue all from the airport last night. My shop is about 20-30 minutes from ORD with traffic. It was nasty here last night.
She arrived around 2:00 got on the bus east with no issues. Said it was cold and snowing - and loved it, but she is not a cyclist.
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Originally Posted by Doge
I appreciate the graphs, but if you have access to numbers that would help. I agree it matters very little, but races - esp the TT's are won by very very little. Also, the last few years UCI bikes are heavier than they were, as are the wheels. I would expect a pro riding a WW bike to get up Alpe D'Huez a wee faster than riding his team bike in a TT. The difference in a cassette weight can DQ a rider in a UCI race, so it matters to UCI at least.
these show the city-city rides, which are virtually the same each year. And if anything, the pavement has gotten much smoother on many of them. I'll see if I can find the source of the graphs.
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Originally Posted by Tulok


Once you're at 1960's tech it matters very little...
This makes sense. At some point, it takes a bunch of watts to overcome drag. If look at the cars able to exceed 200 mph, they are aerodynamic and have high output motors.
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Originally Posted by Wheever
Lol. The late '90s Supras had one of the most insanely hot-roddable engines ever made, the 2jz. With comparatively little money, I have seen them pull well over 1100hp on a dynamometer, which is a very different proposition that modern car makers' hyped-up bhp claims. I'm not suprised the Supra ate the lambo, it probably had double the horsepower, and as long as the driver knew how to get it to the road...bye bye!

(Ot, I know, but you said Supra!)
There's a lot more to car performance than going in a straight line. I doubt a 1100 hp Supra can hang with a Lamborghini on any road with some curves.
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Originally Posted by Wheever
Lol. The late '90s Supras had one of the most insanely hot-roddable engines ever made, the 2jz. With comparatively little money, I have seen them pull well over 1100hp on a dynamometer, which is a very different proposition that modern car makers' hyped-up bhp claims. I'm not suprised the Supra ate the lambo, it probably had double the horsepower, and as long as the driver knew how to get it to the road...bye bye!

(Ot, I know, but you said Supra!)
There's two engines: the 2JZ-GE, which was the standard 6, and the 2JZ-GTE, which had the twin turbo capacity. That's the engine you're talking about, and agreed, that thing's a monster. Toyota being the maker of the Lexus brand (short for Luxury Export, U.S.), installed the 2JZ-GE engines in their mid-90s model Lexus GSs. I have a 98 Lexus GS300, and the great thing? It has a pull-and-plug capacity for the 2JZ-GTE engine...

My current engine is running 250K+ miles and still runs like butter. I'm expecting about 300+ before swapping out engines to the upgrade... just have to make sure my wife doesn't kill me because she keeps getting speeding tickets driving the same. And yeah, those Supras are some of the most sexy cars still... they have investment value actually, a small class.
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Originally Posted by OnyxTiger
And yeah, those Supras are some of the most sexy cars still... they have investment value actually, a small class.
They're no GT2000. $1,000,000+

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Back to the OT..

I just picked up a second hand Scott CR1 with Sram Rival. When the spring comes i'll compare it to my Emonda SLR with Sram Red.

It should be interesting to feel the difference.
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