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Old 01-25-16, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by rmfnla
Thanks, and pooh to not making our flat-bar proclivities known.

Been riding seriously (well, as serious as I can be about anything) since 1970 so I think I am qualified to decide what works best for me, especially when I also built the damn thing up.

What are you riding..?
I ride (nothing special, seriously!) a 2010 Spec. Sirrus (aluminum mainframe/chainstays; cf seatstays/fork) that I bought new then rebuilt to my liking in 2011 once I decided the frame/geometry was a keeper. It just works for me. If ever I could afford it I'd love a 'custom' frame/fork (in 853 or similar) from a good builder, as a kind of 'final' purchase -- that's one reason I glance at threads on steel bikes from time to time.

I was wondering what bars you have on your Curtlo? I've been toying with the idea of trying something more along those lines, just to see how they feel as opposed to the relatively straight (5 degree sweep) flatbar/barend setup I'm used to.

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Originally Posted by badger1
I ride (nothing special, seriously!) a 2010 Spec. Sirrus (aluminum mainframe/chainstays; cf seatstays/fork) that I bought new then rebuilt to my liking in 2011 once I decided the frame/geometry was a keeper. It just works for me. If ever I could afford it I'd love a 'custom' frame/fork (in 853 or similar) from a good builder, as a kind of 'final' purchase -- that's one reason I glance at threads on steel bikes from time to time.

I was wondering what bars you have on your Curtlo? I've been toying with the idea of trying something more along those lines, just to see how they feel as opposed to the relatively straight (5 degree sweep) flatbar/barend setup I'm used to.

If it works for you it's a good bike.

Yeah, the straight sweep of my original MTB bars (CF Synchros) didn't feel very natural. Think about it; if you just hold your hands out they naturally are in the vertical position, not horizontal.

I looked at several high-end bars (i.e. Nitto) but couldn't find the style I wanted. eBay to the rescue, and at a bargain price:

Mary Style Mountain Bike MTB Handlebar Bar | eBay

Much happier with this set-up and I think it looks better as well...
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Originally Posted by Jarrett2
That's a cool looking bike. When did Specialized stop doing the Allez in steel?
...I think it was right after the turn of the millenium. I think this one is probly from 2003, and they sold them for a couple of years after that. It was a way to ride a FOCO frame cheaply at the time.
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Originally Posted by dr_lha
Last Allez made in steel was for model year 2011. I'm actually surprised it was that recently.

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...I guess they brought back something in steel for another year. Interesting that it's a retro frame, unlike the FOCO bikes.
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Originally Posted by TimothyH
I said that the bar on the Merckx bike was tilted down and that the hoods are lower than the tops. Those were my words. It was an observation of objective fact.
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The Merckx bike in the photo that is actually being ridden has the bottom of the drops parallel to the ground with the hoods in a neutral position ---

the photo of the bike not being ridden and on display --- , the bottom of the drops are angled up
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Originally Posted by DMC707
The Merckx bike in the photo that is actually being ridden has the bottom of the drops parallel to the ground with the hoods in a neutral position ---

the photo of the bike not being ridden and on display --- , the bottom of the drops are angled up
Again, that completely misses my point. The bottom of the drops parallel to or not parallel to the ground and the hoods in the neutral position has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.

My point is that the hoods are lower than the bar tops relative to the height of the seat. That's all.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Your ideas for handlebar configuration are outdated. There is no longer any textbook. Ergo bars are set up differently than older styles. There is a lot more personal preference accommodated these days in the newer bar designs.
The BEatles are outdated, so are LEd Zeppelin -- that does not make them any less relevant.

People used to get embarrasing haircuts in the 80's - proclaiming "Hey, look at me! This is my personal preference! " also

YEs, today's ergonomic bar styles (which have been around since the 90's - remember the Modolo Anatomic bend? ) as well as the larger hood designs used today make for a more seamless transition from the bar top to the hood , but its still a neutral hood placement --

Like i said, Bike Mig's bike is set up correctly with modern anatomic bars and larger Campy ErgoPower hoods

The world does not just give us a free for all ----- there is a correct way to do things -- and then there are all the other ways.

The DUI guy on the old Schwinn Continental with the bars flipped completely upwards will argue that his way is the best way as well --- If you have to do too much manipulation of the bars and hoods from neutral , then something else is wrong with the fit of your bike somewhere
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Originally Posted by DMC707
The BEatles are outdated, so are LEd Zeppelin -- that does not make them any less relevant.

People used to get embarrasing haircuts in the 80's - proclaiming "Hey, look at me! This is my personal preference! " also

YEs, today's ergonomic bar styles (which have been around since the 90's - remember the Modolo Anatomic bend? ) as well as the larger hood designs used today make for a more seamless transition from the bar top to the hood , but its still a neutral hood placement --

Like i said, Bike Mig's bike is set up correctly with modern anatomic bars and larger Campy ErgoPower hoods

The world does not just give us a free for all ----- there is a correct way to do things -- and then there are all the other ways.

The DUI guy on the old Schwinn Continental with the bars flipped completely upwards will argue that his way is the best way as well --- If you have to do too much manipulation of the bars and hoods from neutral , then something else is wrong with the fit of your bike somewhere
Oh boy! Sorry guys, but I am just not up to taking this one on. I don't think there is any progress to be made.
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Originally Posted by DMC707
The world does not just give us a free for all ----- there is a correct way to do things -- and then there are all the other ways.
Wow! Leaves me speechless

This could also keep the thread going another 14 pages

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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Oh boy! Sorry guys, but I am just not up to taking this one on. I don't think there is any progress to be made.
...I disagree. First, we could easily turn this into another fifteen pages of "correct bar and hood position" slap fight. Second, and more important, pie.
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Or... we could not derail and let it be a modern steel road bike appreciate thread.
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Originally Posted by Jarrett2
Or... we could not derail and let it be a modern steel road bike appreciate thread.
I think that ship has already sailed, unfortunately.
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
...I disagree. First, we could easily turn this into another fifteen pages of "correct bar and hood position" slap fight. Second, and more important, pie.
Ah, pie!
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Oh boy! Sorry guys, but I am just not up to taking this one on. I don't think there is any progress to be made.
Originally Posted by StanSeven
Wow! Leaves me speechless

This could also keep the thread going another 14 pages


Substitute bowling for cycling and you get the idea ----- but to be fair , i have shared a couple of pics of my "modern steel" bikes --- was not my idea to have a thread drift on bar top to seat top placement -- but it seemed applicable









And BOOM -- there goes the dynamite -- Not Mrs Smith's - and definitely not an artisan pie


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Or... we could not derail and let it be a modern steel road bike appreciate thread.
Would posting this picture help? Not mine BTW:

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Somebody bought a frame that is too small.
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Originally Posted by Jarrett2
Or... we could not derail and let it be a modern steel road bike appreciate thread.
Come on guys, Jarrett is right. Must EVERY thread turn into controversy?

I'd hate to have to start deleting posts ... or worse.



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I think that ship has already sailed, unfortunately.
Yeah but its developed leaks, returning for repairs.
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Originally Posted by StanSeven
I read that post as a compliment. I don't think he mant it as an insult.
yeah, sorry to be unclear. I didn't think the owner would be offended if I called his bike "Art."

After all, I didn't know what its real name was.

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So, does anyone own a Stainless Steel bike? These to me seem to be the holy grail of steel bikes, Stainless being both corrosion resistant, lighter and stronger than other steels. The big downside is of course that they're a pain in the arse to weld, and that their costs are much higher.

I'm not really a fan of the brushed metal look (looks to much like a Ti bike to me), but here's an example (ugly fork aside).

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Originally Posted by BillyD
Come on guys, Jarrett is right. Must EVERY thread turn into controversy?

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I'm just having fun --- i quite enjoy being referred to as a curmudgeon at the still young age of 44
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This new one from JPW is pretty hot. Internal dyno cable routing exits near chainstay bridge, will be routed inside a rolled fender edge. And those pinstripes!!!!

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At Coffee Republic this weekend, there was an 853-frame Independent cross bike with Paul cantis, Chorus shifting, and a threadless conversion, covered in fresh trail mud. I could tell my toddler appreciated it, because he grabbed the chain.
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Originally Posted by dr_lha
So, does anyone own a Stainless Steel bike?
Looking at pics of bikes like that make me want to toss all my responsibilities and go riding .... sadly I can no longer get away with that .... I think if I got stainless I'd go for a low polish and a clearcoat. (I didn't even notice the fork until you pointed it out ,,, and since it is black on a dark background, it is easy to keep overlooking it. ) )

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Here's a modern stainless bike which is pretty unique because it is actually a pro racing team bike, the team being Madison-Genesis, where Genesis is a UK brand who specialized in steel bikes (although recently have moved into making CF bikes) and apparently good enough for Harrison Ford https://www.genesisbikes.co.uk/blog/1...w-croix-de-fer.

The bike is made of Reynolds 953 Stainless tubing.


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