franswa

What else does all that additional wattage get you besides broken bikes?

garysol1 

Old age......

garysol1 

Wattage does not break bikes, poor bike handling skills do.

3alarmer 

...I felt it, even over here.

noodle soup

I compliment you, and you take it as an attack.

Good Lord

noodle soup

Not start a huge argument, but I have broken a Cervelo S3 frameset that was never crashed(the BB shell broke loose). I'm confident that it was a defect, but they insist it wasn't.

They honored the warranty, but refused to accept that the frame was defective.

noodle soup

I'm still waiting to hear how you've broken all these frames. Did you crash them, or was it your power output? Were the frames defective(and replaced by the builder)?

Please tell us more.

Trsnrtr

Chapeau!

Trsnrtr

I broke a 2004.5 Roubaix Pro the same way. Improper bonding of the BB sleeve. They did warrant it because it was a known problem for that year and model.

3alarmer 

...oh sure.

noodle soup

I know Gary from wayyyy back.

He is that guy that you respect/admire because he is simply a true good guy.

noodle soup

It happens! No big deal.

colnago62

I break road frames because I am not in the norm for individuals who these frames are built for. I ride in the range of 7,000 miles a year and I am in the 235 lb. range. I spent 20 years racing the velodrome, training for the speed events. I would do sets of 1,000 lbs. On the sled in the winter to build power. have broken steel frames, aluminum frames, and carbon. Last year, I had the bottom bracket of my Madone fail, had the paws on a Dura Ace hub fail, and had the non drive side crank arm sheer off on a Dura Ace crank. Composite material can make extremely durable products, look at what Boeing has been doing, but in terms of how it is being used in the cycling industry, it used to produce products that focus on lightweight more than durability. I bought my first carbon bike in 1992, a Kestrel.

If I were buying a bike right now for fun riding it would be a steel bike or ti. They are much more resistant to getting knocked around and if their is an issue, I have a choice of three plus frame builders who could do the repair, with carbon, other than the manufacture, I can only think of one actual company and they are in California. I know of a retired Boeing engineer who worked extensively with composites, I would trust him, but other than that. That is it. I have had repairs done on a steel frame in under a week, not so with any of the carbon issues.Do what you want. The op asked for opinions, I gave mine. I am okay if you don't agree.

noodle soup

Like I said, Ti is more resistant to the little bumps and bruises.

BTW, 7k miles a year is cute. I usual hit that in June.

garysol1 

Remember the old Cervelo R2.5? My BB shell on that bike unbonded as well. Warranty replaced it no issue and if they hadn't it could have easily been rebonded.

garysol1 

I "blushed".... Thank You

Maelochs

So, I forget ... what do huge quads, huge power output, huge egos, and broken frames have to do with the OP's question?

You know, I put out more watts than Ghandi, and I could smoke Martin Luther King Jr. any day. And Einstein? I 'd drop him like he defined gravity.

There really is nothing else that matters, right?

Wileyone 

Don't think you put out more Watts than Ghandi. He was into Vintage McIntosh Tube Amps. That's why you see him sitting crossed legged a lot. He's listening. He also rode a Ti Bike.

colnago62

Which is what I mean by crash survivable, those small little spills and bumps that can happen. Is it cute like 400 watts kind of cute?

colnago62

If you take your ADHD medicine, I am sure you can figure it out.

Wileyone 

Either that or shock therapy.

noodle soup

still waiting to hear about all the frames you broke

colnago62

Noodle Soup must refer to your brain material. Let it go little boy, let it go.

cashwatson007

Well...,back on the topic 😳. I went to the bike shop today and they have a 2015 roubaix sl4 with 105 that I can get for $1500. That's the best deal I've seen yet! The bike is gray with white bar tape that I would like to change to black! But other than that I think she will be good to go!

garysol1 

The SL4 Roubaix frame rides like a dream and the 105 is no slouch. Sounds like a great deal on a fantastic bike.