Michelin Pro 4 tire life sucks
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the krylions were my favorite before they were discontinued. good bang for the buck. hadda go with the michelin pro 4 endurance
and pro 3 race in lieu of since i've had difficulty finding the krylions (and now wondering about the ones i do locate as to
how they've been stored, how long will a unused new tire keep before quality/performance deteriorates...).
krylions i was getting about 3K miles of usage per tire, pro 4's about the same. pro 3's seem to be giving me about 2k and
i've had several in the last 2 years either develop strange weakness spots or have part of the inner wire weave poke thru
waay before the life expectancy of said tire. the pro 3's are generally about $10 less per tire (and have always been in stock)
than the pro 4's but the savings aren't worth it to me. the krylions and pro 4's also seemed to handle the occasional dirt/gravel
road much better wearwise. going back to the pro 4's for my main bike but if i come across some
krylions in 700x23 at that discounted price, i'll likely pick up a pair for a back up bike. to me, the pro 4's have always seemed a little nimbler
and more responsive than either the krylions and pro 3's. the pro 4's have the best performance/durability record i've encountered but i've
only ridden michelins, contis and vittorias.
and pro 3 race in lieu of since i've had difficulty finding the krylions (and now wondering about the ones i do locate as to
how they've been stored, how long will a unused new tire keep before quality/performance deteriorates...).
krylions i was getting about 3K miles of usage per tire, pro 4's about the same. pro 3's seem to be giving me about 2k and
i've had several in the last 2 years either develop strange weakness spots or have part of the inner wire weave poke thru
waay before the life expectancy of said tire. the pro 3's are generally about $10 less per tire (and have always been in stock)
than the pro 4's but the savings aren't worth it to me. the krylions and pro 4's also seemed to handle the occasional dirt/gravel
road much better wearwise. going back to the pro 4's for my main bike but if i come across some
krylions in 700x23 at that discounted price, i'll likely pick up a pair for a back up bike. to me, the pro 4's have always seemed a little nimbler
and more responsive than either the krylions and pro 3's. the pro 4's have the best performance/durability record i've encountered but i've
only ridden michelins, contis and vittorias.
I don't really care about tire price either - I tend to stock up from ribble or PBK when I find them on sale, so for under $40 a tire, I don't mind getting < 2000 miles out of a rear.
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Good news guys. Pro4's are out and the now we get "Michelin Power" tires. I guess they felt they needed a rebrand.
First Look: Michelin Power Tires | Bicycling
First Look: Michelin Power Tires | Bicycling
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I gotta agree with the OP, Pro4s are terrible tires in my experience as well. Fast, but just WAY too fragile.
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I had good tire wear on my endurance 25's, roughly 1700 miles and tread still looked good, but I started to get mystery flats. I could not find anything in the tread and they were not pinch flats. After the 4th one in as many days, I chucked them and got some Conti GP4ksII's Been smooth sailing since.
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Any tire that you've come to a skidding stop will have a very limited life span. The softer the tire the quicker you'll toast it. We've all done it and learned our lesson. Seems like the OP just learned his.
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Sounds like you may have skidded without realizing it. That can wipe make a any high quality tire wear through with hardly any miles. If so, don't blame a high quality tire for that--operator error!
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Ok so yes I did skid to a stop twice on the tires. Both times going 25-30 mph and car pulled out in front of me without stopping at stop sign aka normal California driving. So those two incidents probably lead to wear but I'd much rather need new tires than have t boned a car.
Props again to my Black Prince pads for stopping me so quickly with carbon clinchers. Pads btw have plenty of life still
Props again to my Black Prince pads for stopping me so quickly with carbon clinchers. Pads btw have plenty of life still
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Ok so yes I did skid to a stop twice on the tires. Both times going 25-30 mph and car pulled out in front of me without stopping at stop sign aka normal California driving. So those two incidents probably lead to wear but I'd much rather need new tires than have t boned a car.
Props again to my Black Prince pads for stopping me so quickly with carbon clinchers. Pads btw have plenty of life still
Props again to my Black Prince pads for stopping me so quickly with carbon clinchers. Pads btw have plenty of life still
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Ok so yes I did skid to a stop twice on the tires. Both times going 25-30 mph and car pulled out in front of me without stopping at stop sign aka normal California driving. So those two incidents probably lead to wear but I'd much rather need new tires than have t boned a car.
Props again to my Black Prince pads for stopping me so quickly with carbon clinchers. Pads btw have plenty of life still
Props again to my Black Prince pads for stopping me so quickly with carbon clinchers. Pads btw have plenty of life still
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I had the same experience with Michelin car tires years ago. Never have cared for the brand. 1000 miles is nothing for some riders,could mean a new tire every month.
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Ok so yes I did skid to a stop twice on the tires. Both times going 25-30 mph and car pulled out in front of me without stopping at stop sign aka normal California driving. So those two incidents probably lead to wear but I'd much rather need new tires than have t boned a car.
Props again to my Black Prince pads for stopping me so quickly with carbon clinchers. Pads btw have plenty of life still
Props again to my Black Prince pads for stopping me so quickly with carbon clinchers. Pads btw have plenty of life still
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Glad you're ok, and that your brake pads and tires did what they are supposed to do. But the title of you post should have been, "Tire life sucks if you skid on high quality tires!" Blaming your Michelins for that is at the very least disingenuous, and at the most blatantly dishonest.
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My experience with Michelins is they tend to be on the "fragile" side...
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I had a $12 Forte that just wouldn't die, so I purposely put it on the fixie to kill it!
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I've had tires that ride like rocks(but are indestructible), and tires that ride great(but can be fragile).
The OP bought race tires, and treated them like $20 FG/skidding tires. Tire manufacturer isn't the problem.
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If skidding is something you regularly do then high performance tires are not for you. If raw durability is your top priority then $20 Fortes are what you want. But that still doesn't mean Michelin P4's are junk.
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Those two tires are incomparable weight-performance-price wise.
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