My Venturi Breezer Build - 19.25 pound, steel bike <$850
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I think what you mean to say, but couldn't quite piece together, is that Pdedes' has familiar proportions, which is probably due to the fact he has a build particularly suited to the Venturi, which he said is his best fitting bike, and which raises the question does he have more standard geo bikes which may look a little less typical?
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That's a really dumb thing to say, as you can't have fit without seeing the rider, and I'm pretty sure you've not seen Pdedes nor any other Venturi rider on their bike.
I think what you mean to say, but couldn't quite piece together, is that Pdedes' has familiar proportions, which is probably due to the fact he has a build particularly suited to the Venturi, which he said is his best fitting bike, and which raises the question does he have more standard geo bikes which may look a little less typical?
I think what you mean to say, but couldn't quite piece together, is that Pdedes' has familiar proportions, which is probably due to the fact he has a build particularly suited to the Venturi, which he said is his best fitting bike, and which raises the question does he have more standard geo bikes which may look a little less typical?
A proper fitting frame doesn't require those dramatic adjustments.
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i think most people don't know how to transfer their road fit to an aerobar friendly fit. here's a quick and dirty fast fix to get you in the ball park. raise your saddle .5cm. move your saddle forward .5cm. lower your stem .5 cm. you can do more than this if you're comfortable. the trick is to rotate your fit triangle forward with your bb as the datum
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That's a really dumb thing to say, as you can't have fit without seeing the rider, and I'm pretty sure you've not seen Pdedes nor any other Venturi rider on their bike.
I think what you mean to say, but couldn't quite piece together, is that Pdedes' has familiar proportions, which is probably due to the fact he has a build particularly suited to the Venturi, which he said is his best fitting bike, and which raises the question does he have more standard geo bikes which may look a little less typical?
I think what you mean to say, but couldn't quite piece together, is that Pdedes' has familiar proportions, which is probably due to the fact he has a build particularly suited to the Venturi, which he said is his best fitting bike, and which raises the question does he have more standard geo bikes which may look a little less typical?
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i'm an ordinarily proportioned almost 5-10 with slightly shorter arms than average. i think you chose the right word chaadster, "familiar". bikes fitting guys my size are really the most prevalent. my saddle-bar drop is noticeable but not excessive and cockpit length gets my ass far enough behind the bb to give me good seated power, balance and an aero position on the hoods.
You achieved this position without a ton of spacers, or a flipped up stem. Assuming that you are comfortable with that setup, I would say the frame fits you, and you didn't need to use band-aids to get a proper position.
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what is your saddle to bar drop on the Venturi? From what I remember, it looks like 100-125mm. Nothing extreme, but certainly not an upright position.
You achieved this position without a ton of spacers, or a flipped up stem. Assuming that you are comfortable with that setup, I would say the frame fits you, and you didn't need to use band-aids to get a proper position.
You achieved this position without a ton of spacers, or a flipped up stem. Assuming that you are comfortable with that setup, I would say the frame fits you, and you didn't need to use band-aids to get a proper position.
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If you are using a huge stack of spacers, and a riser stem, that frame doesn't fit the rider. You can achieve a good fit by using a bunch of spacers & a rider stem, but that doesn't mean that the frame fits the rider. It means that you adapted it to fit your ideal posture.
A proper fitting frame doesn't require those dramatic adjustments.
A proper fitting frame doesn't require those dramatic adjustments.
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You really are a piece of work.
Would a custom frame builder ever design a frame for client,that required a huge stack of spacers to get an ideal fit?
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Probably it's best you soend more time reading and listening rather than posting; this is my opinion.
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Wow, If I'm being honest this bike totally scares me. Doesn't look like something you could really ride on the road. I wonder what the story is behind this bike, built for weight weenie purposes or something would be my guess.
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I'm not sure how your honest fear is supposed to be taken, but if you were to peruse the English site, you'd see it was designed and built with an emphasis on climbing.
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And I did just go the the site. Man I love steel bikes, I really do and hardly ever seen any quality ones I don't like. But I'm just not digging his stuff at all. At least not the road stuff I just looked at. They may be perfectly fine bikes but just not my cup of tea and not something I'd be comfortable with riding.
Dang and farther searching found he totally wrecked on a descent, hmmm....
And then I found another Youtube of some crazy bike he was riding and totally lost control of and crashed, hmmm...
Yep, the fear is real. Nothing against the man or his work. Lots seem to love it but I'm just not feeling it.
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Oh it's real. Maybe not founded by fact by nonetheless real. And this is for climbing? Going up means coming down. man I can just feel that rear end collapse under me when it its that one dip I normally hit going down Snowbasin and running in the mid 40 mph range through the part the dip is in. 'cause going up means coming back down.
And I did just go the the site. Man I love steel bikes, I really do and hardly ever seen any quality ones I don't like. But I'm just not digging his stuff at all. At least not the road stuff I just looked at. They may be perfectly fine bikes but just not my cup of tea and not something I'd be comfortable with riding.
Dang and farther searching found he totally wrecked on a descent, hmmm....
And then I found another Youtube of some crazy bike he was riding and totally lost control of and crashed, hmmm...
Yep, the fear is real. Nothing against the man or his work. Lots seem to love it but I'm just not feeling it.
And I did just go the the site. Man I love steel bikes, I really do and hardly ever seen any quality ones I don't like. But I'm just not digging his stuff at all. At least not the road stuff I just looked at. They may be perfectly fine bikes but just not my cup of tea and not something I'd be comfortable with riding.
Dang and farther searching found he totally wrecked on a descent, hmmm....
And then I found another Youtube of some crazy bike he was riding and totally lost control of and crashed, hmmm...
Yep, the fear is real. Nothing against the man or his work. Lots seem to love it but I'm just not feeling it.
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LOL, not a critique at all. Just my opinion which I guessed should be viewed as valid, or invalid, as anyone else's on this forum.
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That Rob English bike above must be for someone who is like 6'8"+. Any bike to fit someone with those dimensions are going to look odd.
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I think those of us who live in windy areas (I'm talking 15+mph consistently in some times of the day) would say its crazy *not* to have aero bars. In my part of town the afternoon breeze is wicked.
I do have a shorter stem (60mm) but I feel cramp when I put it on.
The solution is to find aero bars where the pads are closer to me rather than change the stem so the pads are closer.
I do have a shorter stem (60mm) but I feel cramp when I put it on.
The solution is to find aero bars where the pads are closer to me rather than change the stem so the pads are closer.
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To be fair, it would seem that any cyclist wanting a low position typical of riding a small-ish frame for their size but who also desires to run a more standard length stem is a good fit for the Venturi. Cyclists looking for a 'comfort' or 'endurance' bike should run far, far away even if someone tries to hand them a Venturi for free.
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I saw it described as 'super light road'. Is there more of a description I'm missing? I'd love to know the full story behind someone wanting beach cruiser geometry in road bike form. That bike might as well not even have drops those bars are rotated so high. I mean, I'm all for making money and delivering what the customer asks for but if I was building custom bikes for a living, I'd leave that one off my website.
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To be fair, it would seem that any cyclist wanting a low position typical of riding a small-ish frame for their size but who also desires to run a more standard length stem is a good fit for the Venturi. Cyclists looking for a 'comfort' or 'endurance' bike should run far, far away even if someone tries to hand them a Venturi for free.
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So it looks like for Venturi you truly need to size down. I typically ride 52cm and I was very close to buying the Small frame when they were available for closeout sale, but it appears XS might've been a better choice.