deepakvrao

Hi Guys,

I'm building Titanium bikes for my wife and myself. Also planning to use them for light touring.

Was thinking of the Tiagra 4700 for the triple or the 5700, but read that the 4700 is better than the 5700. 5800 and 6800 are within budget but I can't get a low gearing. I really hate the thought of our most expensive frames being fitted with the cheapest and heaviest groupset. Would also prefer the narrower Q factor of a double.

Now suddenly thought about Force 22. If it drives a SRAM MTB RD, it would get me a big cassette and would do the job. Will this work?

I currently have the 10 speed SRAM Red shifters with a MTB RD and cassette on one of my wifes bikes, and it works fine. Will 11 speed also work with a MTB RD?

Any other suggestions?

PepeM

I wonder if a Force 1 RD would work, the long cage one would allow up to 42T. I don't see why it wouldn't work.

deepakvrao

Sram has a GX RD which says X-actuation. Is that the same as the Exact Actuation? That would be great. It goes upto 40 teeth.

KonaRider125

From what I have heard SRAM 10 speed road shifters work with SRAM 10 speed mountain, but 11 speed SRAM shifters and 11 mountain are not compatible with each other.

Its frustrating that neither Shimano or Sram are able to produce a road specific 2x11 RD that is compatible with a cassette larger than 32T.

PepeM

This is a bit hard to follow but it seems to suggest that a 1x RD would be compatible with all the 22 speed chains, and the shifters are the same, so I think a Force 1 long RD should ​work. Probably best to give SRAM a call to make sure.

deepakvrao

I've read that 11 speed SRAM road shifters will work well with 10 speed SRAM MTB Rds. If true, that should be fine?

Mumonkan

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If its Exact Actuation it'll work. The Force/Rival 1 use Exact Actuation.

The 11sp mountain derailleurs are all "X" Actuation and will not work with the road shifters.

bigdo13

yeah it'll work... just make sure that the RD has a high tooth capacity of at least 32 or 34 (most MTB RD's have a much higher capacity)...

also, remember if you have 10 speed shifters and you're gonna run a MTB RD, than a 9-speed RD is the best option...

just make sure the MTB RD is a long cage, most are and most can run really big cassettes...

deepakvrao

Why? I currently run one bike with 10 speed Red and 10 speed MTB RD.

This new one I am hoping to run with 11 speed Rival or Force shifters and a 10 speed MTB RD.

joejack951

Sugino Super Compact crankset?

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deepakvrao

Sounds good. Says Shimano 11 speed compatible. Will it do with SRAM 11 speed also?

KonaRider125

Pricey but good to have options. Why the heck can't Shimano make a 44-32 105 series crank? That would be far more appropriate gearing for 90 percent of the recreational riders out there.

bigdo13

oh you're running 11 speed... in that case, yeah you'll need a 10 speed MTB RD.... disregard earlier comments....

joejack951

Cranksets are like cassettes. As long as the spacing is the same (and it is close enough between Shimano and SRAM for cranksets as far as I know) it will work. You can always ask directly.

joejack951

Perhaps, but if it was in such demand you'd think someone would have capitalized on it by now. Sugino clearly intends for their cranks to be niche products given the price. Shimano still offers triples in some groupsets which I think are still the best all around option though it would be nice to have them back at the higher end.

deepakvrao

Thanks for pointing me in this direction. I found this which is just 200 dollars.

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