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Should I switch from Shimano to Campagnolo?
04-11-16, 12:22 AM
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I had a few friends who bought campy equipped bikes back in the late 80's/early 90's. They didn't complain about their components per se, but they seemed resigned to the fact that their derailleurs never seemed to stay in adjustment. They'd bring their bikes to the shop, and the mechanics had difficulty getting the derailleurs adjusted also.
04-11-16, 01:59 AM
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I'm pumped to try campy now.
I've been a shimano loyalist for a long time now: those hyper glide ramps were a revelation for me. They helped me to get up hills a lot easier since I could shift while still pedaling under full load. So very cool. All of the reviews I read around that time stated flatly that shimano shifting and braking were clearly superior, while often conceding that campy bearings were of the smoothest quality.
I'd really love to see how campy has advanced in the past quarter century or so.
I've been a shimano loyalist for a long time now: those hyper glide ramps were a revelation for me. They helped me to get up hills a lot easier since I could shift while still pedaling under full load. So very cool. All of the reviews I read around that time stated flatly that shimano shifting and braking were clearly superior, while often conceding that campy bearings were of the smoothest quality.
I'd really love to see how campy has advanced in the past quarter century or so.
04-11-16, 05:18 AM
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04-11-16, 06:05 AM
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I just picked up my Campy (Super Record) Dogma 60.1 and can't wait to take it for a spin. The finish on the parts are amazing. I have new pedals on the way that should be here by week's end, so I should be able to go for a spin next weekend. I'm coming from an Ultegra 6800 Marvel, so I'm looking forward to comparing and contrasting the two.
04-12-16, 04:44 AM
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The 2% difference ??
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Neutral support issues ?
I raced on Campy since forever. Works just fine.
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I just picked up my Campy (Super Record) Dogma 60.1 and can't wait to take it for a spin. The finish on the parts are amazing. I have new pedals on the way that should be here by week's end, so I should be able to go for a spin next weekend. I'm coming from an Ultegra 6800 Marvel, so I'm looking forward to comparing and contrasting the two.
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04-12-16, 08:39 AM
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How may Camy support cars have you seen at races - vs. Shimano and SRAM?
Sea Otter, Murrieta - SRAM supports (and others of course).
About the next 10-20 Shimano supports. They throw two or more cars in some races and 20 bikes.
At Redlands they had Di2 Moots Ti bikes for neutral support. Spare bike:
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04-12-16, 01:39 PM
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That's some rather creative 'math' there.
Athena 11 (least expensive 11 speed) is 400 british pounds, 105 11 is 300.
The next step up, ultegra vs chorus is 450 vs 800 steeply discounted.
Record 11 vs Dura Ace 11 is 1050 vs. 950.
Also, very few bikes come equipped with campagnolo, so you're looking at several hours of your time, or perhaps an extra $200 to install the components, whereas shimano component groups come standard on just about every bicycle.
Athena 11 (least expensive 11 speed) is 400 british pounds, 105 11 is 300.
The next step up, ultegra vs chorus is 450 vs 800 steeply discounted.
Record 11 vs Dura Ace 11 is 1050 vs. 950.
Also, very few bikes come equipped with campagnolo, so you're looking at several hours of your time, or perhaps an extra $200 to install the components, whereas shimano component groups come standard on just about every bicycle.
04-12-16, 01:51 PM
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Are you saying it would be cheaper to keep my current components than switching to Campagnolo? Haven't even considered that, good point.
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Oh, and by removing some of that filth from your bar tape, you could likely save about .011 grams. It could be the difference between winning by a LOT and winning by a lot.
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I love C-Record based on it's beauty, but it looks better than it works. 7400 DA works better, from my experience. I've owned both.
Nothing looks better than C-Record, but even SRAM Rival works better.
It's unlikely that I'd ever sell my old Tommasini, but 6800 out performs C-Record everyday, and twice on Sunday.
Nothing looks better than C-Record, but even SRAM Rival works better.
It's unlikely that I'd ever sell my old Tommasini, but 6800 out performs C-Record everyday, and twice on Sunday.
Super Record all the way. Just so Damn pretty and functions flawlessly.
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04-13-16, 04:13 PM
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No, couldn't be. Campagnolo is the Axis of Evil throwing out bad products at mortgage-worthy prices. Why would they want to FIX anything? Just to try to make SRAM look good? No, don't think so...
04-13-16, 04:29 PM
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That's some rather creative 'math' there.
Athena 11 (least expensive 11 speed) is 400 british pounds, 105 11 is 300.
The next step up, ultegra vs chorus is 450 vs 800 steeply discounted.
Record 11 vs Dura Ace 11 is 1050 vs. 950.
Also, very few bikes come equipped with campagnolo, so you're looking at several hours of your time, or perhaps an extra $200 to install the components, whereas shimano component groups come standard on just about every bicycle.
Athena 11 (least expensive 11 speed) is 400 british pounds, 105 11 is 300.
The next step up, ultegra vs chorus is 450 vs 800 steeply discounted.
Record 11 vs Dura Ace 11 is 1050 vs. 950.
Also, very few bikes come equipped with campagnolo, so you're looking at several hours of your time, or perhaps an extra $200 to install the components, whereas shimano component groups come standard on just about every bicycle.
Since in the 11speed category, weight drives cost. Athena weighs less than Ultegra, Chorus is fairly close to DuraAce and Record and Super Record are just lighter than the rest so aren't comparable.
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How are you equating groupsets.. ? It seems with your logic you'd compare the lowest model Hyundai with the lest model Ferrari.
Since in the 11speed category, weight drives cost. Athena weighs less than Ultegra, Chorus is fairly close to DuraAce and Record and Super Record are just lighter than the rest so aren't comparable.
Since in the 11speed category, weight drives cost. Athena weighs less than Ultegra, Chorus is fairly close to DuraAce and Record and Super Record are just lighter than the rest so aren't comparable.
The lowest priced 11 speed campy offering is a little more than 2% more expensive. It's 33% more expensive. Also, since it never comes standard on a bike, you have to either strip a frame or buy a stand alone frameset. Installation of said components will either take you a few hours or cost a couple hundred bucks to have installed at a shop. In which case the lowest cost campy 11 speed group is no longer 33% more expensive, but 100% more expensive.
Anyway, feel free to compare whatever shimano and campy groups you want. I'll feel free to pick it apart.
Also, it's a bit ridiculous to compare bicycle components with automobiles. YOU are the motor with bicycles. The componentry won't help you go any faster.
If you MUST go with romanian manufactured bicycle parts, be my guest. The market has spoken, and it's shimano all the way.
04-13-16, 04:40 PM
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Camy is great stuff. Sure it works fine. Shimano support will support Campy and SRAM. But often they have a bike sitting there with Shimano pedals installed. And its nice to get what you already are familiar with and just hop on. And if you show up before with your DA bike and talk to them they just might have the bike you need, in your size on the car for you.
How may Camy support cars have you seen at races - vs. Shimano and SRAM?
Sea Otter, Murrieta - SRAM supports (and others of course).
About the next 10-20 Shimano supports. They throw two or more cars in some races and 20 bikes.
At Redlands they had Di2 Moots Ti bikes for neutral support. Spare bike:
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How may Camy support cars have you seen at races - vs. Shimano and SRAM?
Sea Otter, Murrieta - SRAM supports (and others of course).
About the next 10-20 Shimano supports. They throw two or more cars in some races and 20 bikes.
At Redlands they had Di2 Moots Ti bikes for neutral support. Spare bike:
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The person said there was a 2% difference in price between groups.
The lowest priced 11 speed campy offering is a little more than 2% more expensive. It's 33% more expensive. Also, since it never comes standard on a bike, you have to either strip a frame or buy a stand alone frameset. Installation of said components will either take you a few hours or cost a couple hundred bucks to have installed at a shop. In which case the lowest cost campy 11 speed group is no longer 33% more expensive, but 100% more expensive.
Anyway, feel free to compare whatever shimano and campy groups you want. I'll feel free to pick it apart.
Also, it's a bit ridiculous to compare bicycle components with automobiles. YOU are the motor with bicycles. The componentry won't help you go any faster.
If you MUST go with romanian manufactured bicycle parts, be my guest. The market has spoken, and it's shimano all the way.
The lowest priced 11 speed campy offering is a little more than 2% more expensive. It's 33% more expensive. Also, since it never comes standard on a bike, you have to either strip a frame or buy a stand alone frameset. Installation of said components will either take you a few hours or cost a couple hundred bucks to have installed at a shop. In which case the lowest cost campy 11 speed group is no longer 33% more expensive, but 100% more expensive.
Anyway, feel free to compare whatever shimano and campy groups you want. I'll feel free to pick it apart.
Also, it's a bit ridiculous to compare bicycle components with automobiles. YOU are the motor with bicycles. The componentry won't help you go any faster.
If you MUST go with romanian manufactured bicycle parts, be my guest. The market has spoken, and it's shimano all the way.