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Old 04-13-16, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by joejack951
Not sure where I said this issue had any relevance to pro cyclists (I specifically noted how it didn't), or even racing.
Did you notice that the thread title that you are posting in is: "Disc brakes in Paris Roubaix".

Paris-Roubaix is not actually a particularly long, filthy and uncomfortable Commute it is a UCI sanction World Tour Road Race, of all things.
Your delight with your hardware for your activity involving a bicycle is lovely, but irrelevant to the topic in discussion.

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Originally Posted by Bandera
Did you notice that the thread title that you are posting in is: "Disc brakes in Paris Roubaix".

Paris-Roubaix is not actually a particularly long, filthy and uncomfortable Commute it is a UCI sanction World Tour Road Race, of all things.
Your delight with your hardware for your activity involving a bicycle is lovely, but irrelevant to the topic in discussion.

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Thanks, Captain Obvious. You can now go post the same PSA in every other thread on this forum.
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Originally Posted by joejack951
That is quite possible. And I won't really care so long as the industry continues to provide some option for those of us who want them for our little niche set of riding conditions and preferences.
The thread is about racing. You are talking about commuting. I am talking about disc brakes not getting people juiced up in the racing world, which was the subject of the thread. The manufacturers will make disc brake bikes for bikes for commuters.

And, honestly, if you watch any of the Belgian races, indeed there is a lot of stuff on the road.
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Originally Posted by StanSeven
For those of us that race locally or regionally, I doubt very few race in mountainous conditions where discs are beneficial. Even some local races to me were cancelled in the flats because of heavy rains.
I don't race, except the occasional beer league thing, but I ride in the mountains for fun every chance I get - most weekends.
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Originally Posted by joejack951
Thanks, Captain Obvious. You can now go post the same PSA in every other thread on this forum.
Just the 41.

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Originally Posted by roadwarrior
The thread is about racing. You are talking about commuting. I am talking about disc brakes not getting people juiced up in the racing world, which was the subject of the thread. The manufacturers will make disc brake bikes for bikes for commuters.
Can I not discuss a topic with some tangents? Yes, I am talking about commuting which for me involves cycling on the road up and down hills for several miles every day. Sounds a bit like road cycling, eh? Did I mention I like lightweight parts, too, like those racers? My commuter bike is full carbon fiber, including the crankset.

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And, honestly, if you watch any of the Belgian races, indeed there is a lot of stuff on the road.
But unlike a commute for me, not a lot of stopping at the bottom of hills. But this thread is about racing so back to racing.
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Originally Posted by joejack951
Not so much an issue for bikes other than on mountain descents where a rim might build up so much heat that you go into the next curve with everything still scorching hot.
This was a problem for me on black carbon wheels with a black carbon brake track, coming down from the Okanogan Highlands into the desert a few years ago. Road was curvy and steep.
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So has any actual PROOF come out that the injury was caused by a disc brake?

Lampre manager not convinced Fran Ventoso's injury was caused by disc brake - Cycling Weekly

"Given the cut on his left leg and that discs mount on the left side of bikes, Copeland said it becomes harder to believe that it could have been from a disc brake. However, he said it is possible that Ventoso tumbled and landed in such a way for it to happen."



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Originally Posted by joejack951
Can I not discuss a topic with some tangents? Yes, I am talking about commuting which for me involves cycling on the road up and down hills for several miles every day. Sounds a bit like road cycling, eh? Did I mention I like lightweight parts, too, like those racers? My commuter bike is full carbon fiber, including the crankset.



But unlike a commute for me, not a lot of stopping at the bottom of hills. But this thread is about racing so back to racing.
Regardless of what you commute on, you're not doing it with a ton of other people in close quarters, so no, it doesn't matter for the purposes of how discs fit into a peloton.
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Regardless of what you commute on, you're not doing it with a ton of other people in close quarters, so no, it doesn't matter for the purposes of how discs fit into a peloton.
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So has any actual PROOF come out that the injury was caused by a disc brake?

Lampre manager not convinced Fran Ventoso's injury was caused by disc brake - Cycling Weekly

"Given the cut on his left leg and that discs mount on the left side of bikes, Copeland said it becomes harder to believe that it could have been from a disc brake. However, he said it is possible that Ventoso tumbled and landed in such a way for it to happen."



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Injured Ventoso blasts use of road discs - VeloNews.com
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Originally Posted by UnfilteredDregs
So has any actual PROOF come out that the injury was caused by a disc brake?

Lampre manager not convinced Fran Ventoso's injury was caused by disc brake - Cycling Weekly

"Given the cut on his left leg and that discs mount on the left side of bikes, Copeland said it becomes harder to believe that it could have been from a disc brake. However, he said it is possible that Ventoso tumbled and landed in such a way for it to happen."



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Ventoso blasts the use of disc brakes in the peloton | Cyclingnews.com
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Originally Posted by CafeVelo
Regardless of what you commute on, you're not doing it with a ton of other people in close quarters, so no, it doesn't matter for the purposes of how discs fit into a peloton.
Of course, a discussion limited to the effects of a technology in the peloton should really be posted in "Professional Cycling For the Fans".
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Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest
This was a problem for me on black carbon wheels with a black carbon brake track, coming down from the Okanogan Highlands into the desert a few years ago. Road was curvy and steep.
Nope, didn't happen. Unless you blogged about it. Then it's undeniable proof. Wait, were you racing at the time? If not, get the hell out of my thread!
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Originally Posted by joejack951
Wait, were you racing at the time? If not, get the hell out of my thread!
Your thread? I'm pretty sure you aren't the OP.

FWIW, I'm not anti-disc brakes, but road racing isn't the place where they make the most sense.

Btw, the chainring comparison is stupid. The switch to bikes with chains/chainrings/cogs was a huge safety improvement over penny farthings. Disc brakes aren't a huge safety improvement over caliper rim brakes.
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Originally Posted by joejack951
You two go hug it out. I'll continue derailing threads in the 41.
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Well said...just remember this is the "41"...it is the internet version of the Bermuda Triangle.
lol...or black hole.
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The slash to that rider is hideous. Morons for letting disks into the pro peloton.
How many more will be maimed?
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Not sure about the potential for injury in a big crash- I think it is there. Fingers crossed that nobody gets sliced.

I must say that after now riding two bikes with discs, I am sold. My non-disc Roubaix takes a little adjustment to ride. The disc brakes have not become finicky yet, even with QR setups. If they do, I'll temper my enthusiasm. I have not had any issues with MTB discs but all have been thru axle and large discs (180-200).
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
I do love the taste of a good disk brakes thread.
Few topics get going as quickly as this one. Absolutely fantastic.
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Issue over.

UCI suspends road disc brakes in races after Ventoso injury | Cyclingnews.com

I sincerely hope this slows down the industry's push toward road disc for most bikes.
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