PepeM

Do you mind sharing the evidence that this happened with us?

cthenn

LOL

joejack951

SRAM - Shouldn't Ride (it) Another Mile?

joejack951

The overwhelming majority of us don't get wheels for free and so we care about how long they last. For me, I won't go back to using rim brakes on a bike I intend to ride a lot especially if that 'a lot' includes rain. I trashed a set of rims in ~12,000 miles commuting with V-brakes but my commuter with a front disc has over 25,000 miles and my rims are pristine. So is my disc rotor. I don't ever need to touch my rear cantilever brake.

Campag4life

You got that opinion from the best descender on the planet...perhaps best that has ever lived....Peter Sagan. He rides caliper brakes and nobody beats him down the mountains. Further Specialized makes a disk brake model on I believe all the different bikes Peter rides...soon the Venge VIAS as well I believe.
No disks for the maestro. He would be on them if he felt they would be any advantage including the team that supports him.

therhodeo

Umm uhh I just really don't know what to say about this.

joejack951

It's probably best that you just don't say anything then. Cuz you'd be wrong

roadwarrior

Exactly.

Having done this sport for pay, if you can ride you can stop with the brakes we have been using for eons. In any conditions.

joejack951

If you can ride, you can win using a 5 speed rear cassette and downtube shifters. Am I right or am I right?

exime

Did that offend you? They have been known to fail in large mountain descents. Get over it.

joejack951

Touchy, aren't ya?

Give some context to your statement. Who are the failing on? Not on a pro road cyclist (yet) because if they ever did the interwebz would be all over it like that chainring injury I posted that would have never happened if disc brakes were banned. What setup were they using? Did they have any clue about how to apply brakes on a mountain descent?

roadwarrior

I did. But now everyone gets a trophy and a jillion gears. I gave my last bike like that away two years ago to my neighbor who wanted to do triathlon...he was a runner on the fourth place cross country team in the NCAA's. He is doing just fine. But for today's riders, the problem with five gears is you have to think a bit more than if you have 10 or 11. Like when I ride my single speed bike.

Also, having ridden 25,000 miles a season in the past, I have never worn out rims. Riding in Europe, in the rain and muck. But I did not ride cheap stuff, either.

fietsbob

Everybody gets to post an new thread on this redundantly.

exime

You are overly sensitive about this. Relax. You claimed that road disc brakes don't fail on mountain descents and rim brakes do. Was just letting you know that you're wrong. You can use google. I don't have time to do it for you.

roadwarrior

They won't have to ban disc brakes. I just believe that they will not get much traction (no pun intended).

cthenn

OK, well that is a legitimate reason to get discs. But I don't like how this is becoming standard on all new higher end road bikes, and I don't the arguments that these are somehow vastly superior to rim brakes, and those who disagree are "retrogrouches".

UnfilteredDregs

Road disc failure on descents is the Sasquatch sighting of road cycling.

roadwarrior

Well said...just remember this is the "41"...it is the internet version of the Bermuda Triangle.

joejack951

You can think more, work more at shifting, have a little less control as you remove a hands from the handlebars now and then. But who wants to do that when you can just use integrated shifters with lots of cogs? Likewise, for those who prefer the feel and other benefits of discs, what good can come from trying to keep them out of the sport?

Perhaps Europe doesn't have as much grit on the roads. Or you had less reasons to stop at the bottom of hills than I do on my commutes.

joejack951

That is quite possible. And I won't really care so long as the industry continues to provide some option for those of us who want them for our little niche set of riding conditions and preferences.

Bandera

Oddly enough road racing is not commuting, plootering about or touring and has hardware requirements unique to participating in the sport.
See UCI rule book.

Show of hands:
Who has crashed in a road race and come into contact with your own or a competitors machine in the crash?
Me, more than once.
Result: No slicing injuries just road rash, the odd snapped clavicle and trashed kit.

-Bandera

himespau 

+1. Now we just need some good skinwall clinchers.

RChung

More details. Plus, it appears Ventoso's wasn't the only injury. This isn't good.
Injured Ventoso blasts use of road discs - VeloNews.com

joejack951

Not sure where I said this issue had any relevance to pro cyclists (I specifically noted how it didn't), or even racing. It was in response to a blanket statement about rim brakes nearly always doing the job effectively. I pointed out one of those limitations that made me switch to a disc front brake. I had more reasons than just that, too, but again with little relevance to pros and/or racing and this thread has gone far enough off topic.

indyfabz

I do love the taste of a good disk brakes thread.