kbarch

Actually, in some cases, they're probably LESS critical. How often does a doctor actually use a stethoscope? Not very. And when was the last time you figure a top chef actually used a knife to do his job? In the case of someone like Daniel Boulud, it may have been several years ago. The point is, when they're "tools of the trade," you don't waste your time questioning whether they're necessary. The only time you dismiss them is when you've found, AFTER years of using them, that you no longer need them - because you aren't the one chopping the onions anymore. To question them without even trying them isn't skepticism, it's lack of commitment. Perhaps that sounds rude, or harsh, or snobbish, but there's no animus intended. What I was getting at regarding being in the wrong forum is that if you aren't prepared to accept certain practices of a community as a matter of faith, you have to be prepared to be an outcast to the same extent, that's all. There are plenty of cyclists who never wear cycling jerseys or ride with clipless pedals, but they generally don't find themselves at home in this church, they go to the one down the street - and they're going to hell.

Emperor Ryker

I know now, but when I posted the thread, I didn't. I was leaning towards no, but still wanted to hear whether there were any compelling arguments for it. As it turns out, there aren't, at least for now.

It's actually very high already, almost at the maximum.

That's OK, I ride solo anyway. And I'm just glad there are still some people on these boards that actually try to help people, rather than troll them with their elitist I'm-better-than-you attitude. Also, I'm hoping that I actually do get these items in the future, because that will mean I fell in love with cycling. But if that happens, I'll make sure not to become an ******* to people just because I wear different clothing.

rebel1916

Wait, who's trolling?

Nachoman

Yeah, you're not trolling

Emperor Ryker

Haha, how would I be trolling with this? I literally have three local bike shops on the way to campus, I don't even have to take a different street, but just stop and step in. They all welcome me with open arms and a pump.

kbarch

It's not merely attitude, it's fact-based conviction. OK, maybe I was a bit sophomoric there, but after you've "fallen in love" with cycling, there's a good chance you'll take your turn at having a little fun with a novice, or ridiculing heathens, too, even if you don't come across as such an ******* (sorry about that). There's no more fierce defender than the newly converted.

fondanburg

that not enogh man ? i have the shiped

bakes1

A committed amateur?
I am 51 years old and began riding again only one year ago.
I mainly ride my entry level aluminum road bike with platform pedals.
I wear gym shorts and no shirt in warm weather and I average 18-19 mph on rides up to 30 miles.
Based upon the stats I see on Strava and Mapmyride and based upon what I have read here I am a stronger rider than your average spandex clad 'committed amateur' and that's pretty sad imo.
What's your point again?
Other than the fact that you quite hilariously seem to believe that accessories make you committed.

Lazyass

I'm 78 years old, wear nothing but underwear, bare feet with rat trap pedals, and I average 32 mph for 100 miles.

kbarch

Now THAT'S committed. Only an hour and 40 minutes out riding without a shirt is nothing; @bakes1 needs to HTFU.

MonsterFat

Perhaps its time to review the rules of cycling:
Velominati ? The Rules

rebel1916

I wear no shorts at all and I don't even use a saddle. #HTFU

Lazyass

I stick my energy bars in a fanny pack.

Dan333SP

Tell us more! This is an exciting offer, because none of us have enogh man and could use the shiped.

seypat

If a person is going to cycle shirtless, I hope they have some way of putting sunscreen on their back. It may be more comfortable, but all that exposure can be deadly. It makes one think about the aero position.

Stratocaster

Don't ask.
The dude serves no purpose here other than to criticize and demean.

noodle soup

As Strava says, "Prove it".

FullGas

cool story.

mercator

Appreciate if you'd weigh in on this thread.

Lazyass

I take my bike in to the shop to lube the chain and reset my computer, they do it for free.

Emperor Ryker

Damn, the saltiness is strong in this one.

kc0bbq

Helmet vents are more accessible when on a bike. Most of them taper so you can get a nice snug fit.

ridingfool

Forget nash bar much better sites are Merlin and other England sites it takes about a week for delivery but so much cheaper for things u can get a good quality jersey and bib shorts for about 60 bucks also if u plan on doing rides of 40 miles at a time so much worth spending the money on a few bike outfits also consider a good road seat can find them on sale under a hundred bucks but when u don't have a sore ass anymore so much worth it

Trsnrtr

FIFY.

Cyril 

Yes! Best 41 zombie thread evah! I look forward to its latest resurrection.

BTW, Anyone else wonder what Emperor Ryker is Emperor of?