apaulson714

Hey guys, couple of questions.

First one is in regards to Jagwire cables/housing.
- Is it worth the extra money vs the Shimano cables, and if so, are the Jagwire Elite cables worth the price jump from the Pro?

I recently upgraded everything to 5800 and in the process i did my best to learn to do things myself so this was my first time routing cables/housing. After doing so i ended up with a different stem with a bit more of a rise which caused my rear brake cable to lose some slack and it sometimes catches on one of the stem bolts if turned far right and causes the brake to pull.

Long story short i have a 150 mile ride coming up and wish to resolve this issue and wonder what cable set i would get the most value out of.

Next question, and it may be one nobody can give me an answer to.
-Has anybody seen the Titanium or Carbon Silver Jagwire cables in person? I tried to do an image search and they both look quite similar. Im looking for a dark grey/silver cable, and in the product picture carbon silver appears that way, but in the images i find the Titanium and Carbon Silver look very similar (lighter)

Sorry if i rambled a bit... thanks in advance for any help!

redlude97

only use shimano polymer coated cables with the new 11 speed groups IMO. Housing it up to you. I like the Jagwire, but the shimano SP41 works well too

velociraptor

I have Jagwire on one bike and generic cables on the other.

As far as I can tell, the primary difference is marketing.

BikingGrad80

I use either SP-41 or Jagwire racer. I've used cheap stainless in the past and my rear shifting went to crap.

Wested

I like Jagwire because the cables don't seem to unravel as easily as stock cables do. I bought a brand new bike a few months ago and had to replace the brake cables within weeks since they were unraveling.

rpenmanparker 

Jagwire Pro Roadnis an excellent set for any brand/model derailleurs and levers.

rubiksoval

Agreed. I replaced my Shimano PTFE with Jagwire Pro and can tell no difference after a thousand plus miles. Have Shimano on my other bike, too, and can tell no difference.

As long as everything is tuned and dialed in...

topflightpro

IIRC, Jagwire makes cables for Shimano.

noodle soup

These are much longer lasting than Shimano cables.



I went through 3 Shimano cables in 15k miles before trying Aztec cables. Shift quality is equal, and after 15k miles there was no fraying inside the shifter(and the coating has not peeled off).

apaulson714

Yea i thought i heard that somewhere, thats kind of what spurred the question.

Looking to get it done ASAP and amazon has same day shipping for me and the price for a full set of the sp41 is about the same as the Jagwire. Thinking i may go with the jagwire to add a little cosmetics to the cables.

Thanks for the input guys!

redlude97

PTFE coated cables are not the same as the polymer cables. Are you using these on 5800/6800/9000 groupsets

noodle soup

Yes, and they work great. I used the 6800 housing and Aztec cables for the past 18 months with no issues.

The new bike I'm building will use Jagwire Road Pro cables. I haven't completed the build yet, because I'm still waiting for a few tiny but necessary parts, but I'll report back when completed.

redlude97

I'm suprised. It is night and day between shimano PTFE and polymer coated cables. Maybe I'll give it a try on the next switch

rpenmanparker 

Just to set the record straight, PTFE is a polymer, specifically polytetrafluoroethylene. Hence PTFE-coated cables are polymer-coated cables.

noodle soup

true, but not all coatings are equal. Some don't peel and flake like the Shimano ones.

rpenmanparker 

Agreed. The Gore cables have a horrible, shreddy PTFE coating. Jagwire's coating is more like a PTFE paint.

redlude97

I'm just going off of Shimano's labeling. Old Pre 5800/6800/9000 were PTFE coated that was clear. New "polymer" 9000 cables have a dark coating which may or may not be PTFE

noodle soup

I haven't used the Jagwire cables yet, but the Aztec cables are inexpensive, and work very well.

ARPRINCE

Why not use this instead of the other one? I'm asking because I plan to get it - maybe.

noodle soup

i may be wrong, PTFE is a generic term, and Shimano uses a PTFE coating that they named for their specific formula.

noodle soup

I looked at those too, but prefer the braided housing appearance over the aluminum links. I've used Nokon cables before, and they creaked too much for me.

SpeshulEd 

Next up... Jagwire or Yokozuna?

noodle soup

I read somewhere that Yokozuna housings were a PITA to route. IIRC it was a pain to get their ferrules into many frame cable guides.

SpeshulEd 

This is exactly what I experienced. Had to whittle the ends a bit to get them to fit.

FeltF2Tarmac

No noise from these, I have the brake set on my Di2 bike, like them a lot.
The Yokozuna did require a little work with a hand file on the ferruls but had zero issue routing them.