Why steel?
08-05-16, 06:34 AM
#176
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I was not referring to cf's asplosable tendencies when I referenced two years.
My timeframe reference was more of a nod towards the folks who are susceptible to marketing hype and need to have the supposed latest and greatest.
Better recreational cycling through accessories baby.
Your skill or fitness level does not improve but you gain .1 mph and feel 'snappy' lol
My timeframe reference was more of a nod towards the folks who are susceptible to marketing hype and need to have the supposed latest and greatest.
Better recreational cycling through accessories baby.
Your skill or fitness level does not improve but you gain .1 mph and feel 'snappy' lol
08-05-16, 07:08 AM
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I've got a Waterford and had it for many years. It's a nice bike but certainly not the same as any of my CF bikes. If someone buys a CF bike every two years and decides on a steel Waterford they likely are more interested in comfort and enjoying the smooth ride.
08-05-16, 07:42 AM
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I'm only relaying what the guy said. I can't divine his reasons beyond that. He was a young (30s) skinny guy who I couldn't keep up with riding 19mph, so not the usual stereotype of old fogey steel rider you'd believe if you read this forum.
08-05-16, 10:52 AM
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08-05-16, 11:00 AM
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I was not referring to cf's asplosable tendencies when I referenced two years.
My timeframe reference was more of a nod towards the folks who are susceptible to marketing hype and need to have the supposed latest and greatest.
Better recreational cycling through accessories baby.
Your skill or fitness level does not improve but you gain .1 mph and feel 'snappy' lol
My timeframe reference was more of a nod towards the folks who are susceptible to marketing hype and need to have the supposed latest and greatest.
Better recreational cycling through accessories baby.
Your skill or fitness level does not improve but you gain .1 mph and feel 'snappy' lol
Personally I am sort of hoping my CF frame Isn't "snappy;" a snapped frame isn't any fun. There is this though: while my steel Raleigh may Feel faster, I am willing to bet my completed CF build will be eight pounds lighter and will unequivocably and measurably Be faster----even with a slug like me riding it.
Whether or not I will enjoy the "faster" bike is still a mystery.
08-05-16, 02:55 PM
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Better than when your Surly cracks or dear god you do something like put a kickstand on a steel touring bike, and then you can't use the warranty.
I'm still not convinced welded steel bikes are that durable. All those ancient steel bikes are brazed. The crack failures on welded steel bikes seem to be from fatigue in the HAZ because of welding.
I'm still not convinced welded steel bikes are that durable. All those ancient steel bikes are brazed. The crack failures on welded steel bikes seem to be from fatigue in the HAZ because of welding.
08-05-16, 07:47 PM
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You missed the point here. He said someone got tired of buying new CF bikes every couple years and got a steel Waterford. It sounded like he didn't like buying new bikes.
08-05-16, 08:48 PM
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Someone says somebody said something vague and you all are arguing about it. Priceless
08-06-16, 06:37 AM
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Because with patience around here, I can find good bikes for ~$100. Don't race, don't club ride, these suit me perfectly. And maybe in part due to my age, I love the aesthetics of old steel frame geometry.
08-06-16, 07:24 AM
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Why I ride steel? The same reasons others ride carbon. Aesthetics, comfort, trend, peer pressure, cost, familiarity, and media ads. Also TDF riders ride them, and my cycling heroes ride them. Is what I would have said 31 years ago and first started biking.
Now mostly the same reasons and I don't like the way the carbon bikes top tube slopes down. It reminds me of how we distinguished a boys bike and a girls bike back in the day.
However, steel, aluminum, titanium, carbon, or a new frame material from the planet Alderaan, if you're on two wheels you are as crazy as I am. Ride on.
Now mostly the same reasons and I don't like the way the carbon bikes top tube slopes down. It reminds me of how we distinguished a boys bike and a girls bike back in the day.
However, steel, aluminum, titanium, carbon, or a new frame material from the planet Alderaan, if you're on two wheels you are as crazy as I am. Ride on.
08-06-16, 08:03 AM
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08-06-16, 03:03 PM
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But by the way, the top tube on my steel frame bike has a slight slope (but it was made to measure); on my crabon aero-road race bike it's totally level - it's a manly bike.
08-06-16, 09:39 PM
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Sloping top tubes became popular long before carbon fiber did. All three of my drop bar bikes have level top tubes, two of which are carbon fiber. I like being able to fit insulated two 24 oz. bottles inside my 53cm triangles.
08-06-16, 09:58 PM
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But the steel bikes just give more tactile feedback of the road.
08-06-16, 10:06 PM
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Here's my steel bike, bought it in 1976, repainted and new components 2004, still rides like a dream and not a blemish on it.
I also ride a Merlin purchased in 2003, probably 70 - 30 % Merlin Lunaris - Freschi ( steel).
The lunaris is a Ti - Carbon fiber tubed bike, exquisite ride and very comfortable as well as very fast. I average .5 - 1.0 mph faster on the Merlin, maybe placebo, maybe better fitness, I have no idea, I just go faster on one regularly than the other.
I also ride a Merlin purchased in 2003, probably 70 - 30 % Merlin Lunaris - Freschi ( steel).
The lunaris is a Ti - Carbon fiber tubed bike, exquisite ride and very comfortable as well as very fast. I average .5 - 1.0 mph faster on the Merlin, maybe placebo, maybe better fitness, I have no idea, I just go faster on one regularly than the other.
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