turkey9186

Psuedo Hill anything less 5% grade, 1.5 miles, or 500' elevation gain?

Dean V

Dumb question that even the OP doesn't seem to be interested in!

f4rrest

Especially hill repeats, structured of course.

jsigone

attack everything....that's how it's done on the group ride. Ease off to get rid of the pain but your a$$ will be riding solo til the end if you do. Oh and Attack the downhills too....

Solo rides? I picture myself getting dropped so I attack it like it should.

Love red lights on group rides, hate them when solo.

kbarch

Two out of three of the above, perhaps. I mean, it could be less than 1.5 miles or less than 500' and still be seen as a hill if it was steep enough, I think. And I think if it was long and relentless enough, average 4% with some 8% + thrown in here and there for good measure it would be considered a hill, too. However, once it gets to be long (and I think 1.5 miles may be too long), we're talking about an extended climb, usually with too many variations in grade to be thought of as something to be "attacked" (or not) as a whole, but instead something broken down into manageable pieces. Folks may attack on, and for large parts of a categorized climb, but no one consistently attacks the whole thing.
But I think a pseudo hill needs to be more than something, too. Let's say that to qualify as a pseudo hill, it has to cause a noticeable change in speed (30% or more) and take more than a minute to crest at that rate. Anything less is just a bump.
So, to answer your question: bumps and pseudo hills - attack, invariably. Real hills - attack the ends and steep bits in the middle.

NYMXer

I attack the shorter hills with keeping up my momentum and mashing out of the saddle. On the longer hills, I stay seated and pedal my way to the top as my body allows, but pushing it's limits. I am not good on the long hill climbs and think there is a lot of time to be made on them. Much more than on the flats or descents (which is usually where I get my wind back)

I just got a heart rate monitor and will try training with that. I am hoping that it helps on the long climbs

PepeM

I'll add 'attacking' to the list of BF phrases that bug me.

WhyFi

So you're saying that he should be assailing the hills?

joejack951

I think he's saying don't half ass it. Murder those hills.

And on BF in the 41 I think that means ride your all black bike.

turkey9186

From several years of doing the Death Ride, I have seen a lot of people "attack" on the first climb. They usually blow up a mile later at the 10% grade, or a 1/2 mile from the top at 8000'. And,it is the psuedo climb of tge day compared to the other four.

StanSeven

Of course it matters. If just training, you learn and prepare for race hills that way. Second most everybody likes going fast on a course. That's what Strava is all about. So knowing how to tackle hills is faster. Lots of group rides turn into informal races as well so you learn how to best your buddies. Then it's just fun and you get a feeling of accomplishment going a hill faster.

wphamilton

Correctamundo Stan There are lots of reasons to want to be stronger or faster, and from some of our perspectives racing ranks very low on that list.