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Old 08-31-16, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by dr_lha
I think it'll need to be cheaper than Shimano's Ultegra Di2 to be competitive, honestly.

Does anyone actually go out of their way to buy FSA components? I always thought of them as the cheap part on a stock bike. I suppose if they get their OEM prices low enough, we might see some bikes with full FSA groupsets on them in bike shops soon.
I do. Their stems and bars are light and excellent. Their top cranks, K-Force Light and SLK Light, are just that: top notch. No reason they could not offer a first class electronic groupset.
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Originally Posted by link0
Although I love eTap, I think FSA's approach makes a lot of sense. Combining the FD and RD reduces the number of batteries and transmitter/receivers by 1, at the cost one a short and direct wire btw the FD and RD.

I definitely think eTap's shifter button solution is much cleaner though. Less is more.

For what little it's worth, I am an electrical engineer.
I agree with you except about the eTap shifter. I often shift my FD and RD simultaneously on my Di2 bike, I would miss that on the eTap set up. I also like the certainty of knowing which gear I'm shifting to instead of a toggle. In that sense, to me the FSA system has an advantage in shifting.

I think it makes a lot of sense to get rid of the wires as much as possible between the shifter and the rest of the system. I think getting rid of the extra battery that eTap has to have being completely wireless is a good idea from a reliability perspective. I don't think the wire between the FD and RD is a big deal and dumping the battery is a good tradeoff.

That said, any of the elec systems are great and I think any of the wireless systems are a step forward.

I too am an EE. (FWIW)

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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
I do. Their stems and bars are light and excellent. Their top cranks, K-Force Light and SLK Light, are just that: top notch. No reason they could not offer a first class electronic groupset.
Fair enough. My only experience with their stuff was a cheap stem (fine) which I still use on my gravel grinder and the Gossamer Pro crankset that came on my cross bike which I would class as cheap crap.
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Originally Posted by gsa103
Interesting. I like the idea of wired front/rear combination. Seems like it simplifies the battery issues and still makes for a clean setup.
A dead battery means neither will work. The Sram batteries are interchangeable and a space weights only 24g. About the weight of a energy gel.
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So just bring a spare or two then.
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Originally Posted by dr_lha
I think it'll need to be cheaper than Shimano's Ultegra Di2 to be competitive, honestly.

Does anyone actually go out of their way to buy FSA components? I always thought of them as the cheap part on a stock bike. I suppose if they get their OEM prices low enough, we might see some bikes with full FSA groupsets on them in bike shops soon.
I would never pick FSA WE over eTap, but I'd definitely pick it up over Ultegra Di2, if they were the same price. It's about the same weight as Dura Ace Di2 and is mostly wireless.

High end FSA parts are not bad. It mostly because manufacturers throw on a random low end FSA crank doesn't match the rest of the bike, giving FSA a bad rep.
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Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti
Because patents are a real problem. It is why ROTOR resorted to hydraulic shifting...because all the way of pulling a cable and the design of parallelogram ders are patented...which is really really funny, when you consider that ALL those patents are owned by foreign owned companies with offshored/outsourced production.

AKA a USA based company wanting to make things in the USA cannot...because foreign owned corporations with foreign production have the legal monopoly.
You sound really bitter about international patents, and perhaps patents in general. Why is that so?
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Originally Posted by link0
I would never pick FSA WE over eTap, but I'd definitely pick it up over Ultegra Di2, if they were the same price. It's about the same weight as Dura Ace Di2 and is mostly wireless.
I personally would not, but that's mainly to do with the fact that WE remains unproven and unreviewed, whereas Di2 is fairly refined at this point. The benefit of not running wires from the shifters, but having to for the batteries and between the derailleurs is not massively obvious to me, compared to the benefits of a fully wireless system. Still for weight weenies, if this comes in at the weight of Dura Ace for a price competitive with Ultegra or less, that will clearly be a draw.

High end FSA parts are not bad. It mostly because manufacturers throw on a random low end FSA crank doesn't match the rest of the bike, giving FSA a bad rep.
Yes, I assume this is why they're keen on having a full groupset. Then they can sponsor a team, and try to improve the image of the company from what it currently is: a supplier to cheap parts (rightly or wrongly).
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