asiantrick

Man I would trade the 7900 in a heartbeat. I'm running DA9000 and ETAP on both of my bikes at the moment and I would still trade either of them for the super record also.

Campy hood is probably one of the most comfortable hood I've ridden.

thin_concrete

I really like the SR I have on one bike. Is it better than my other bike work with 6800? No, but a welcome change of pace from time to time.

Dave Mayer

I am a long-term Campagnolo rider, with a number of Campy-equipped road bikes. Yesterday, I was riding 9-speed Veloce; I can't understand how the shifting could be any better. My 1993 vintage 8-speed Record Titanium system is also great. My 10-speed Record and Chorus systems are flawless as well. Campy has had their act together for more than 20 years.

A couple of weeks ago, I did a long ride on 10-speed Tiagra; amazing stuff. Super smooth, and crisp. However, the ergonomics didn't work for me, in that the brake levers doubled as shifters. What is it with that? Not as intuitive as Campy, and the shifters were harder to use with full finger gloves. Shimano must have been missing some critical patents at the dawn of STI - circa 1990.

dalava

I don't think that's the pinnacle of Shimano's STI shifting... the new Ultegra 6800/DA9000/DA9100 are night and day different in a very good way.

BTW, Shimano's dual pivot blows away the Campy's brake performance by a large margin.

joejack951

None of those groups change the fact that the brake lever pivots in and it can be hard to depress the correct lever when shifting with thick gloves on. I'm building my first Campy bike with a Chorus groupset and unless Campy shifting lets me down severely in some other way, the ergonomic differences appear to be perfect for me, a long time Shimano user.

Per any disc brake discussion, any and all caliper brakes are just fine because they can all lock up the wheels. How can Shimano be better than Campy then?

dalava

Have you tried the new 6800/9000 brakes?

Oh, not to mention keeping the Campy brakes centered is PITA

dalava

Campy has 2 thumb shifters in a slight different shape and position. You may want to also check into that and see which one may work better for you if you decide to give a Campy a try.

joejack951

I have not. I have 5800 brakes on my Trek. They feel roughly as good as the Ultegra 6600 brakes on my LOOK (RIP). I'm going to be using TRP HY/RD hydraulic calipers with the Chorus levers on my new build.

My comment was meant to be tongue-in-cheek, by the way. Better calipers and levers definitely make a huge difference in braking feel, and Shimano's mid to high end stuff that I've used is very good. I'm personally just done with grinding my rims using caliper brakes, hence my move to discs.

Anyone interested in buying the Campy calipers that came with my groupset?

Road Fan

I find the same thing in my main rider, 2005 Mondonico with 2x10 Gen 2 Record Ergolevers (the rest of the group is mixed Campy) - easy to reach with my smaller hands, from any riding position. This is after about 6 years of acclimation - I was strictly a friction rider before that!

fietsbob

Out here in the Boonies the stock of Campy spare parts at the LBS is Zero..
the Dura-Ace not much better , but some lower range stuff can work in a pinch.

furiousferret

I went from Shimano > Campy > SRAM mainly because that's what came with the bikes. They're all functional and none of them are bad groupsets, but my favorite is Campy, its just so smooth.

If you're riding a Bianchi you should be running Campy. Anything else just doesn't look right.

Drew Eckhardt 

Mine haven't needed adjustment over the last 21,000 miles.

redlude97

I much prefer caliper brakes over HYRD except in rain, even descending. If you expect discs to magically make your new road bike perform better, you're in for quite the disappointment.

bianchi10

I tried them out on the road today vs comparing them on the rollers last night. It felt better for sure! But I guess I must fall in percentage of riders that prefer a soft and butter smooth shift rather than the hard precise shift that a lot of you have mentioned. It was nice, but I'm going to stick with my DA.

The entire Campy super record will be up for sale, so if anyone is interested, PM me.

joejack951

I'd love some magical performance gains but I am not expecting any. Assuming the HY/RD's function near as well as the BB7 caliper on my commuter I'll be quite happy, and so will my carbon fiber rims. I know discs aren't perfect but they tick more boxes for me especially on this latest build.

eric1971

I've found the opposite to be true. No amount of adjusting will make my 6800 rear brake stay centered. I finally gave up and started running it with a large gap. Only way to keep it from starting to rub at some point during my ride. My Campy brakes have not moved one milometer since installed. Also, I have not noticed any difference in performance braking between the two.

joejack951

I can't understand why a caliper brake would ever have trouble staying centered on its own assuming it is set up properly to begin with. Inspecting my skeleton brakes through their OEM poly bag packaging, they appear to use the same features as Shimano calipers to achieve proper centering and maintain it. Unless they get bumped while handling the bike, there should be no force trying to rotate the caliper about the pivot (other than on a non-centered caliper which would want to center itself if the pivot bolt was loose enough).

redlude97

This is a clamping bolt issue. If your clamping bolt is slipping at the correct torque try applying carbon paste under the caliper and bolt mating surfaces.

Camilo

On the other hand...

My strategy has always been to try something new or different if I have a reasonably priced chance to do it. Life's too short to not try different stuff when you have a chance. Otherwise, how would you ever know what you like best.

That's what I did when I needed a new group a few years ago. I'd always had Shimano and it worked perfectly and felt fine. But just to try something different, and because I found stuff reasonably priced, I bought Sram and it turned out that it works a lot better for me than Shimano - ergonomics in hood size and shape and the shift lever throw just works better for me. Now when I ride my Shimano bike, I really don't like it and will probably swap that one when I need to get new parts.

Next time I'll try Campagnolo, just because.

You're not getting married to this stuff, and if it doesn't work out, sell it and go back to what does.

eric1971

Worth a try, thanks for the tip!

Ridelots24

i converted from shimano to campy about 5 years ago. Hood Ergonomics improved comfort and was my main reason to switch. i've found that my drive train is lasting a bit longer than my old ultegra and DA stuff did.

joejack951

You may also need/want to add a star washer between the caliper and frame. Like this:


Available here: https://www.universalcycles.com/shop...s.php?id=32523

Scarbo

On my road bikes I have Dura Ace and Campy Super Record; on my MTB I have SRAM X01 Eagle. They are all great. For road, I prefer Campy because I love the ergo shifters and the drivetrain is butter-smooth (on this bike I also have the Campy Shamal wheelset with the blue brake pads--this combination is nothing short of amazing; stopping power is as good as the SRAM Guide RS discs on my MTB. I know the Campy naysayers don't want to hear this).

eric1971

Star washer is already in place.

Shuffleman

Huh?
I truly believe that is is nothing more than a personal preference. I have both Campy and Shimano. They both shift well but I love the feel of the Campy hoods and the thumb shifters. Regardless, I have never heard that Campy is not durable. I believe the opposite to be true based on my experience.