Brooks gets the chop
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Originally Posted by dave ford
Fixer, those mods are superb, I really like the look of the Swift with the lace-up, so if I get problems with sag then this would be a great solution. I weigh around 160lbs, so I think a lighter rider is probably beneficial.
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Originally Posted by jfmckenna
OK now does anyone have any suggestions as where to get a stock Brooks for a decent price? I like those chop jobs but I think I will get one and ride it till it's broken in then decide if I need to chop it.
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Yes, www.permaco.com usually has the best prices on Brooks. However the B17N is now up to $64., where Wallingford has it for $65. But the shipping cost may vary between them, so check it out before you buy. Still on most other models, Permaco is $10.-$20 or so less.
Also, check www.lickbike.com. Bob Lickton has most of the more popular models, has good prices, and most of the time can match the other guy's. He's also one of the best bike retailers in the country to deal with. Bob's A-#1 in my book.
In fact, just yesterday I was looking to buy a B67S for my roommate's flat-bar roadie, and Bob fished around to his distributors all day, but they couldn't come up with that one in the color she wants. That's the kind of guy he's always been.
So, I had to get that one from Wallingford. I went there because she might not like it so we have the return option. While I was at it to save on shipping, I ordered a B17N to give that one a try. Who knows? Maybe I'll be chopping up a new '17N soon...
After that, the next one on my list is the Colt. Permaco still has some of those left. I hope I can get one before they're all gone!
Here's some better pix of my trimmed Pro again, after yesterday's 30.34 mile ride. Doesn't look or feel "saggy" to me, and I'm a Clydesdale!:
Also, check www.lickbike.com. Bob Lickton has most of the more popular models, has good prices, and most of the time can match the other guy's. He's also one of the best bike retailers in the country to deal with. Bob's A-#1 in my book.
In fact, just yesterday I was looking to buy a B67S for my roommate's flat-bar roadie, and Bob fished around to his distributors all day, but they couldn't come up with that one in the color she wants. That's the kind of guy he's always been.
So, I had to get that one from Wallingford. I went there because she might not like it so we have the return option. While I was at it to save on shipping, I ordered a B17N to give that one a try. Who knows? Maybe I'll be chopping up a new '17N soon...
After that, the next one on my list is the Colt. Permaco still has some of those left. I hope I can get one before they're all gone!
Here's some better pix of my trimmed Pro again, after yesterday's 30.34 mile ride. Doesn't look or feel "saggy" to me, and I'm a Clydesdale!:
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BTW, if you ladies & germs are looking for a decent seatpost with some 30mm of setback to accomodate Brooks saddles: here's a new Kalloy Guizzo 27.2x350 with a full carbon shaft and cold-forged head. It's micro-adjustable and has one bolt, which I like over the two-bolt designs.
The actual weight of this one (as measured on a Feedback Sports Alpine scale) was 259gm. in 'stock' (350mm.) form. But, I cut it down to 200mm. length to fit my frame size. The weight then was 200gm. (The Pro saddle went from 554gm. to 490gm. after the chop job. Less is more, I always say. )
It's been a great post so far: no squeaks, no loosening of the seat clamp, and at +200 lbs., I haven't broken it yet.
Cost me $42. and change, delivered from www.aebike.com. What, me worry?
The actual weight of this one (as measured on a Feedback Sports Alpine scale) was 259gm. in 'stock' (350mm.) form. But, I cut it down to 200mm. length to fit my frame size. The weight then was 200gm. (The Pro saddle went from 554gm. to 490gm. after the chop job. Less is more, I always say. )
It's been a great post so far: no squeaks, no loosening of the seat clamp, and at +200 lbs., I haven't broken it yet.
Cost me $42. and change, delivered from www.aebike.com. What, me worry?
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Originally Posted by Wurm
Here's some better pix of my trimmed Pro again, after yesterday's 30.34 mile ride. Doesn't look or feel "saggy" to me, and I'm a Clydesdale!:
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Originally Posted by Wurm
BTW, if you ladies & germs are looking for a decent seatpost with some 30mm of setback to accomodate Brooks saddles: here's a new Kalloy Guizzo 27.2x350 with a full carbon shaft and cold-forged head. It's micro-adjustable and has one bolt, which I like over the two-bolt designs.
The actual weight of this one (as measured on a Feedback Sports Alpine scale) was 259gm. in 'stock' (350mm.) form. But, I cut it down to 200mm. length to fit my frame size. The weight then was 200gm. (The Pro saddle went from 554gm. to 490gm. after the chop job. Less is more, I always say. )
It's been a great post so far: no squeaks, no loosening of the seat clamp, and at +200 lbs., I haven't broken it yet.
Cost me $42. and change, delivered from www.aebike.com. What, me worry?
The actual weight of this one (as measured on a Feedback Sports Alpine scale) was 259gm. in 'stock' (350mm.) form. But, I cut it down to 200mm. length to fit my frame size. The weight then was 200gm. (The Pro saddle went from 554gm. to 490gm. after the chop job. Less is more, I always say. )
It's been a great post so far: no squeaks, no loosening of the seat clamp, and at +200 lbs., I haven't broken it yet.
Cost me $42. and change, delivered from www.aebike.com. What, me worry?
A Bricks saddle on a CF post??? Isn't that, like, an oxymoron?
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Originally Posted by SSP
A Bricks saddle on a CF post??? Isn't that, like, an oxymoron?
par·a·dox Pronunciation Key (pr-dks)
n.
2. One exhibiting inexplicable or contradictory aspects
The reasons I bought this post:
#1: Needed more setback, and the Guizzo has 30mm.
#2: It is lower cost than other similar posts with as much setback and the same or less weight - Al or CF.
#3: I liked the seat clamp design, and had never had a problem with a Kalloy product.
#4: Before I changed my fork to a Columbus Muscle monocoque, I felt the combination of this frame, the OEM fork, and the wheels I have made the ride a tad too harsh on the rougher roads that I'm stuck with in my area. It was quite apparent on the rear of the bike after I changed forks, because I have fairly short chainstays and straight seatstays. You might also notice that the Brooks Pro does not have springs like a B72 or Champion Flyer. So having the CF post helped lessen the impact of the jolts coming through the saddle. I was very skeptical that a CF post would make any difference. It has however taken just enough of the harshness out of the back end that I no longer brace myself for every bump and crack in the road, which can be a source of fatigue on longer rides.
Whatever works...works!
Originally Posted by The Fixer
Wow.....beautifully sculpted, very nice job...
Last edited by Wurm; 05-27-05 at 10:49 PM.
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Originally Posted by Wurm
Like, not in my book. I prefer to think of this unholy coupling as a 'paradox'.
par·a·dox Pronunciation Key (pr-dks)
n.
2. One exhibiting inexplicable or contradictory aspects
The reasons I bought this post:
#1: Needed more setback, and the Guizzo has 30mm.
#2: It is lower cost than other similar posts with as much setback and the same or less weight - Al or CF.
#3: I liked the seat clamp design, and had never had a problem with a Kalloy product.
#4: Before I changed my fork to a Columbus Muscle monocoque, I felt the combination of this frame, the OEM fork, and the wheels I have made the ride a tad too harsh on the rougher roads that I'm stuck with in my area. It was quite apparent on the rear of the bike after I changed forks, because I have fairly short chainstays and straight seatstays. You might also notice that the Brooks Pro does not have springs like a B72 or Champion Flyer. So having the CF post helped lessen the impact of the jolts coming through the saddle. I was very skeptical that a CF post would make any difference. It has however taken just enough of the harshness out of the back end that I no longer brace myself for every bump and crack in the road, which can be a source of fatigue on longer rides.
Whatever works...works!
Coming from "The Mad Butcher of All Things Brooks", that's a high compliment. Thanks George. (BTW - Bill Laine says he might post my hacked specimen up on the "Butchered & Tied" section also. OK, I think we've opened Pandora's Box!)
par·a·dox Pronunciation Key (pr-dks)
n.
2. One exhibiting inexplicable or contradictory aspects
The reasons I bought this post:
#1: Needed more setback, and the Guizzo has 30mm.
#2: It is lower cost than other similar posts with as much setback and the same or less weight - Al or CF.
#3: I liked the seat clamp design, and had never had a problem with a Kalloy product.
#4: Before I changed my fork to a Columbus Muscle monocoque, I felt the combination of this frame, the OEM fork, and the wheels I have made the ride a tad too harsh on the rougher roads that I'm stuck with in my area. It was quite apparent on the rear of the bike after I changed forks, because I have fairly short chainstays and straight seatstays. You might also notice that the Brooks Pro does not have springs like a B72 or Champion Flyer. So having the CF post helped lessen the impact of the jolts coming through the saddle. I was very skeptical that a CF post would make any difference. It has however taken just enough of the harshness out of the back end that I no longer brace myself for every bump and crack in the road, which can be a source of fatigue on longer rides.
Whatever works...works!
Coming from "The Mad Butcher of All Things Brooks", that's a high compliment. Thanks George. (BTW - Bill Laine says he might post my hacked specimen up on the "Butchered & Tied" section also. OK, I think we've opened Pandora's Box!)
Tim
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Originally Posted by cs1
What about a Thomson Elite with setback. Silver is very retro. I use one on my Waterford with a Brooks and it looks great.
Tim
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