More SRAM disappointment.
01-23-17, 05:18 PM
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Yup, i'm leery of letting others work on my bike (or cars). After picking up a new bike it goes straight to my bike stand and i go ever have bolt with a torque wrench.
BTW... GOOGLE is your friend. I found all the info and pictures doing a quick search.
BTW... GOOGLE is your friend. I found all the info and pictures doing a quick search.
01-23-17, 06:01 PM
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Are you still disappointed with SRAM? Btw, Etap would solve the wiring and mechanical issues.
01-23-17, 06:09 PM
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Update:
Second mechanic at a second shop confirmed, the bars would work if I had gone with Ultegra but don't work with SRAM.
Forgot to mention that I have hydraulic brakes.
Second mechanic at a second shop confirmed, the bars would work if I had gone with Ultegra but don't work with SRAM.
Forgot to mention that I have hydraulic brakes.
01-23-17, 06:10 PM
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01-23-17, 06:18 PM
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It's your money, but eTap works great for me.
01-24-17, 07:33 AM
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I have a hard time believing ENVE would make a bar that wouldn't work with SRAM brifters. I would have contacted them immediately after my mechanic told me they wouldn't work.
01-24-17, 08:11 AM
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01-24-17, 10:13 AM
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01-24-17, 10:19 AM
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01-24-17, 10:29 AM
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Here is the official recommendation from Enve for levers that don't provide an outside routing options:
BTW, Shimano mechanical levers are more of a problem here than any hydraulic, since performance actually deteriorates due to all the sharp angles. See a similar problem with another handlebar:
BTW, Shimano mechanical levers are more of a problem here than any hydraulic, since performance actually deteriorates due to all the sharp angles. See a similar problem with another handlebar:
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01-24-17, 10:59 AM
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01-24-17, 11:36 AM
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They still likely need some adjustment.
01-24-17, 11:42 AM
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They do flare out, but you're right about it being exaggerated by the lens.
They're really narrow. When I put mine next to another bar of the same size (44 cm) it's a lot.
They're really narrow. When I put mine next to another bar of the same size (44 cm) it's a lot.
01-24-17, 11:48 AM
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Here is the official recommendation from Enve for levers that don't provide an outside routing options:
BTW, Shimano mechanical levers are more of a problem here than any hydraulic, since performance actually deteriorates due to all the sharp angles. See a similar problem with another handlebar:
BTW, Shimano mechanical levers are more of a problem here than any hydraulic, since performance actually deteriorates due to all the sharp angles. See a similar problem with another handlebar:
01-24-17, 12:06 PM
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Actually, as far as I can tell, SRAM is intended for the hoods to angle in slightly, and the levers then come out to meet the hands. This gives a narrower presentation at the "hook points" (which is ideal when in a pack), puts the levers more into your fingers when braking on the hoods, and makes the tips easier to get to when descending in the drops.
The whole set up is extremely intentional and designed from a purely functional and ergonomic standpoint.
It would blow my mind to see people rejecting it because it "looks" awkward... were I not largely immune to being shocked anymore.
01-24-17, 12:11 PM
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All (modern) brake levers flare out. Those levers appear to be set too high on the bar where it starts to transition into the 'tops' section. That is causing the levers to take on a very awkward tilt. Nothing intentional on the part of SRAM. Just basic user/shop error.
01-24-17, 12:12 PM
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Comment re these bars on Enve site:
★★★★★ 3 out of 5 stars. · 11 months ago
Not compatible with 1st Gen Shimano Di2
total bummed. compatibility not noted in description. Very nice bar otherwise.
★★★★★ 3 out of 5 stars. · 11 months ago
Not compatible with 1st Gen Shimano Di2
total bummed. compatibility not noted in description. Very nice bar otherwise.
01-24-17, 02:12 PM
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But 1st Gen Shimano Di2 was 2009. Are you still running 7 / 8 year old Di2?
01-24-17, 02:12 PM
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I have to say the internal cable routing in handlebars is not something really necessary, and typically PITA to work with judging by a few internal cable routing bars I have worked with (though they are not ENVE). The cables are hidden underneath the bar tape anyway, and a lot of bars have some channel on the underside that does a pretty effective job.
To the OP, if you have these bars, just route the cable externally, and be done with it. No more disappointment!
To the OP, if you have these bars, just route the cable externally, and be done with it. No more disappointment!
01-24-17, 02:20 PM
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I have to say the internal cable routing in handlebars is not something really necessary, and typically PITA to work with judging by a few internal cable routing bars I have worked with (though they are not ENVE). The cables are hidden underneath the bar tape anyway, and a lot of bars have some channel on the underside that does a pretty effective job.
To the OP, if you have these bars, just route the cable externally, and be done with it. No more disappointment!
To the OP, if you have these bars, just route the cable externally, and be done with it. No more disappointment!
The bars I'm using still/instead have a groove alongside the bottom, for the cables to go into, and get taped around. The groove makes them "disappear" so you can't feel them when you hold the tops. Works fine. The Enve SES bars don't have that, so the cables would protrude, they'd be a bump. I was planning to leave the tops/wings unwrapped and it would look pretty ugly to do that.
Also, I have hydraulic brakes, so installing these properly would mean bleeding both lines. I needed to bleed the rear one anyway, so the time was especially right. That's done now.
Not really sure what I'm going to do with the bars. I was looking forward to using them, and that's not going to happen any time soon.
I love the wheels though!