jitteringjr

At 530g for their 700C tire, it's only about twice as heavy as my current setup.

And this contraption on which the thread started, I wonder how well that works when you ride though a patch of goat heads. LOL That's $17 per goat head if you can get the thing through the needle sized hole.

exmechanic89

I agree, a flat isnt the end of the world. I also agree with the poster that said these types of products are almost always created by non-riders. It seems like the holy grails many non-cyclists believe need to be found are a way around flats, and an auto shifting bike.

TimothyH

Create a crisis where there is none and solve it with a product or service.

Works equally well in marketing and politics.


-Tim-

Jazzguitar

Sometimes it's hard but with the ongoing support of my wife, and daily therapy sessions, I'm starting to come to terms with the fact that sometimes my tubes fail to do their job.

f4rrest

Can I use it on my truck? It's been getting a lot of nail and screw flats recently...


It's tubeless.

smarkinson

There's another cgi video on the site which shows how it is supposed to work. The device inserts a patch between the tube and tyre. You are supposed to pinch the tyre together which the video claims creates a gap between tube and tyre with the patch inserted into that gap. In my experience my tubes are usually stuck to the inside of the tyre so quite how the gap is formed I do not know. Or how the patch will unfold itself evenly I don't know either. The fact the video uses a lot of edits makes you wonder whether it actually works.

Doge

Flats and cycling go together.
I'm a go big or go home kinda guy, so flats happen. I will always choose a performance tire over anything else.

Where I live the helpful people are almost like flies and you have to say "no really really - I can fix it". It is in a very pleasant way difficult.

Bmach

Some posters had questions as to how various parts of this product worked. If you scroll down there are FAQs and you don't have to watch the vid.

zymphad

For the amount they want, I can buy 7 inner tubes or 2 Kenda Kriterium Endurance tires.

ClydeTim

I went to school to learn the rocket science of replacing a tube so I don't need these silly products.

All that schooling has paid off seeing that I can afford the big bucks, like 3 bucks for a new tube.

AlmostTrick

Is that counting both tire and tube? Sounds like not. Also, how much does your pump/inflator/extra tube(s) and patches weigh? You know, all the stuff you wouldn't need to carry anymore.

I'd like to try the new airless tires just for curiosities sake, not because of fear of flats.

Nachoman

My guess is that even under the best case scenario, the thing wouldn't work.

chaadster

You seem to be the first person to understand this device. Kudos.

I also share your primary concerns relating to efficacy. Sure, I can see it working for some flats, but fail to see how it can address the kind of common concerns you mention.

I'm most interested in the potential for tubeless, since in a way, it's the most simple type of repair in that there is not the innertube to deal with. In the tubeless case, I wonder how the patch is compressed onto the casing, or if it rather acts like a plug, and is drawn up into the hole. I tend to think the use of sealant would enhance the patch security if it is a plug, bit would like to see these questions addressed by the manufacturer or tests.

Too bad it's so big in any case, but if fast and easy, perhaps there's an application for it.

Retoocs

What happens when you ride thru patches of star thistle and Swiss cheese the tubes?

There's a reason why I always carry two tubes and a patch kit.

mcours2006

Of all the flats I've ever had I've never been able to find where the puncture was, which pretty much renders the product useless. I've always waited until I got home or to work to patch, and even under ideal conditions of full light and indoors some of them took some time to find.

This product is all but useless.

gregf83 

Do you have decent close up vision? Other than small wires I can generally locate the source of the puncture before removing the tire. Works for glass or pieces of metal.

My concern with this device would be enlarging a potentially small hole in the tire resulting in future problems.

mcours2006

My near vision is fine...for an older gent.

Most of the flat that I've had to fix were ones where there were no visible tear in the tire, but upon closer inspection of the tube revealed small, virtually undetectable pinholes. In fact, on a few occasions I've even had to submerge it in water to find them.

I don't bother try to patch it on the road anymore. I'll replace the tube, check if there's something of the inside of the tire that might cause another flat, and be on my way.

Maelochs

Punctures from pieces of debris which fall out when the tire goes flat, and wires from tire carcasses are the more common and most invisible source of leaks, in my experience. Another is debris (usually glass) which goes deep into the tier and can only be seen from the inside. Add to that the occasional mystery flat, and suddenly this product looks like it was designed by someone who doesn't ride a bicycle.

I carry a spare tube or two and Park glueless patches. Seems a better investment.

jitteringjr

I'm under 300g, as low as 280g, typically now depending on what tube the LBS had in stock the last visit so that is about half, but I didn't think about all the other stuff. Still you have 500g of stuff you can carry at my lightest tire and tube setup. I haven't weighed the other stuff though.

chaadster

Whether being able to find the point of puncture is common or not, it does happen, and in those instances, this tool would not help. By the same token, if it works as advertised, there are instances where it would work.

The big question, then, is whether your aversion to a tube replacement is greater than the cost of acqiring and carrying the device, and greater than the chance it will not work in a particular instance.

Cyclist01012

Seems to me that the OP is probably a shill for the company. Road bike flats simple, yank the tube check for what ever caused the flat remove it if necessary insert new tube inflate and ride on after shoving tube with the hole in jersey pocket.. now really whats so hard about that

Now tubless mtb is a little different.. For that most of us are starting to carry some sort of Dynaplug type system..

banerjek

Why so heavy?
Lezyne mini pump: ~90g
2 tubes: ~180g
Levers: ~40g

This can be lightened if you're willing to have one tube (maybe add tiny patch kit) or reduce the number of levers.

banerjek

Note that the tool contains an inflator -- presumably each patch pod contains that plus the patch.

Protecting yourself against multiple flats would require multiple patch pods which increases both weight and bulk. Patchnride recommends carrying 3 patch pods. Curiously, the $35 tool only comes with two...

chaadster

The Patchnride does NOT contain an inflator.

banerjek

Correct -- I got thrown off by AlmostTrick's comment about not needing to carry a pump or inflator anymore.

This thing will be heavier than a patch kit and about the same weight as lightweight tube plus patch kit and levers. It may be faster, but it won't be nearly as versatile.