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Old 04-20-17, 10:04 PM   #51
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I just got some shorts that are for cycling, but no liner etc..

I may sew some chamois leather in like in the old days, & call it good.

It worked well for 10s of K miles with no shoulder straps.

Better ventilation.
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If you are a male, then bibs without question.
Or female.

Cue the Assos pics.



Joking aside, my wife loves Assos bibs.
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Bibs or shorts, it doesn't matter to me. I have both.

I think there are some downsides to bibs: they're a bit of a hassle for number 1. For number two, a royal pain in the ass, so to speak, because of the need to remove the jersey. The extra material over my shoulders and on my back holds in the heat, too, which isn't a good thing when it's hot.

If bibs really were so awesome, then why aren't we all wearing suspenders, or why aren't there integrated straps for shorts and pants we wear off the bike?

Maybe bibs work better for people who sport large guts. That's what I've read here many times. I don't know for sure because I'm fairly slim. Shorts fit me just fine.

I think it comes down to confirmation bias. People who buy bibs like them because they paid a chunk of money for them. And because they see people who are bike racers wearing bibs, they want to look like like they race, too. It all comes down to 1) wanting to fit in with the crowd you run, I mean ride with, and 2) succumbing to marketing by the people who make bikes, bike clothing and bike accessories.
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I just got some shorts that are for cycling, but no liner etc..

I may sew some chamois leather in like in the old days, & call it good.

It worked well for 10s of K miles with no shoulder straps.

Better ventilation.
I liked the sparsely padded, genuine chamois shorts too BITD. But really, your chances of getting a good fit without bunching and chafing by doing it yourself are slim to none. IMO.
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It all comes down to 1) wanting to fit in with the crowd you run, I mean ride with, and 2) succumbing to marketing by the people who make bikes, bike clothing and bike accessories.
So you've succumbed to the marketing from companies selling shorts?
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So you've succumbed to the marketing from companies selling shorts?
Touché.
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I agree. The idea that the bib straps hold the chamois in place is absurd. The elastic shorts stay put period. No shoulder straps are needed. Damn, there is so much BS in this sport. Oven molded shoes, anyone?
Clothing that's available in different sizes is absurd. So much BS.
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Clothing that's available in different sizes is absurd. So much BS.
Right. I buy "one size fits none".
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I think it comes down to confirmation bias. People who buy bibs like them because they paid a chunk of money for them. And because they see people who are bike racers wearing bibs, they want to look like like they race, too. It all comes down to 1) wanting to fit in with the crowd you run, I mean ride with, and 2) succumbing to marketing by the people who make bikes, bike clothing and bike accessories.
If the bibs were cheap, will the bib-wearer like them less?

Pros are almost always on skinsuits nowadays. Why is hardly anyone wearing skinsuits, if people who buy bibs only do it to look like they race?

As far as I know most of those brands (and their evil marketing departments) that make bibs also make shorts.

I think the only valid explanation so far is that all bibfans are fat.
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I wear bibs and I'm not fat. I have a six pack and everything.

I wear plain shorts, too, when I ride my old steel bike.
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Three pages on the bibs vs. shorts debate.

Just wear whatever you damned well please, like, makes your ride easier, makes you look better.

Shaved legs vs. not shaved legs.

Carbon vs. Steel.

Steel vs. Titanium.

Campy vs. Shimano.

Shimano vs. everything else.

Disc brakes vs. rim brakes.

Lawd!
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You forgot:

Matched water bottles vs. unmatched.
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I like bibs better, but I do have a pair of shorts that I like and stay in place fine (~74kg 173cm).

I will say that the straps can absolutely help with keeping your shorts/tights in place. I have dhb Flashlight bibs and tights. The non bibs do not stay in place at all, while the bibs are quite comfortable (I like the simple dhb pad). My thighs might be a tad large for those, even though they're same size as every other dhb bibs/shorts that I have...
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Sounds like we've come to a consensus, then.
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Sounds like we've come to a consensus, then.
Pah! What foolishness is this?

PS: I wear shorts because I think bibs look silly.
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Pah! What foolishness is this?

PS: I wear shorts because I think bibs look silly.
Protip:
Don't wear them with the straps on the outside of the shirt.
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Pah! What foolishness is this?

PS: I wear shorts because I think bibs look silly.
Bibs don't look silly. Now, THIS looks silly:
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Don't dox me Scarbro.
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Sounds like we've come to a consensus, then.
How about off the bike: briefs or boxers?
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Bibs don't look silly. Now, THIS looks silly:
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How about off the bike: briefs or boxers?

I advise you to start a new thread.
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How about off the bike: briefs or boxers?
I prefer bib briefs.

I do not recommend googling that at work.
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You forgot:

Matched water bottles vs. unmatched.
... and

Wave, or not?

BTW, I wonder if anyone has noticed a correlation between a propensity to wave (or not) and a preference for bibs or NOT BIBS?
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How about off the bike: briefs or boxers?
Depends™ on the context, surely?
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In before the ban.

Why are you fussing so? His bag of groceries is covered up.

Well. Technically.
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