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    Velomax Now easton..What Gives?

    Hi--I went to buy a set of velomax wheels...only to find they're now Easton..are they still (where they ever?) quality wheels?? Anyone riding the Easton (or velomax) Orion 2 wheels???

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    I have a pair of Easton's that came with my Cervelo Dual. I've put over 250 miles on them in the last month and so far I've had no problems.

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    Easton purchased Velocity as well in that deal, which makes a quality rim in my opinion. Velomax wheels are made with Velocity (now Easton) rims. I believe the rims are made in Australia. I think the rim qualitiy is comparable to Mavic. I'm not certain about the hubs though.

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    MWW are you sure they rims are Velocity? I do not believe they are but maybe...that is certainly the first I have heard that.

    I have the Velomax Circuit wheels and have had some issues with them. I guess it is how I climb out of the saddle as I rock the bike side to side and I weigh 218 lbs and have some pretty strong legs. This all adds up to some forces on the wheels that likes to knock them out of true. I had my LBS retrue my rear wheel 3 times in 3 months and they were coming back out of true in less than a week at the end. I then sent the wheel back to Easton who totally rebuilt it (and charged me for it because having someone other than Easton true the wheels voids the warranty) because it was defective in their mind. Since I got it back it has stayed true for the first 300 or so miles so maybe it is all good now. They are hand built in their factory in CA so if that matters to you there you go. IMO they compare favorably to Mavic, better bang for the buck. The hubs seem VERY good to me but what do I know. It is my understanding that Easton only changed the name and they are still built by the same people at the same facility with the same parts as before...no change in quality.
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    Easton purchased Velocity as well in that deal, which makes a quality rim in my opinion. Velomax wheels are made with Velocity (now Easton) rims. I believe the rims are made in Australia. I think the rim qualitiy is comparable to Mavic. I'm not certain about the hubs though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasschopper
    MWW are you sure they rims are Velocity? I do not believe they are but maybe...that is certainly the first I have heard that.
    I've heard the same thing -- that the various Velomax wheels are simply lightweight hubs built onto the Velocity rims. I have been using a set of 32-spoke Velocity Aerohead wheels on my bike for about 2,000 miles now -- no problems to speak of. I went with Velocity over Mavic because Velocity makes an off-center rim for rear-wheel use that helps even out spoke tension all around. I don't know if the Velomax wheels use the off-center rims or not though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinF
    I've heard the same thing -- that the various Velomax wheels are simply lightweight hubs built onto the Velocity rims. I have been using a set of 32-spoke Velocity Aerohead wheels on my bike for about 2,000 miles now -- no problems to speak of. I went with Velocity over Mavic because Velocity makes an off-center rim for rear-wheel use that helps even out spoke tension all around. I don't know if the Velomax wheels use the off-center rims or not though.
    Well the ascent and Orion do use an offset rim in the back and in comparing the specs the rim depth and width is the same as the Aerohead and Aerohead OC but they only come down to a 24 hole drilling and the Ascent uses an 18 hole front while the Orion uses a 24 hole front.

    Ok I will stop on that line as I got this email back from Velocity when I asked them:

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt from Velocity
    Hi John,

    Nope, we're still trying to make it as the little guy. Easton recently purchased a company called Velomax, to which we do supply rims. So it is true that some Velocity products end up in Velomax/Easton wheels, but we are definitely completely independent of them.

    Thanks for the inquiry/concern,

    Matt
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    And in thinking about it that means you can save a boat load of cash by buying the Velocity Aerohead/Aerohead OC SpeedCific combo from oddsandendos.com and get basically the same wheels as the Orion for hundreds less. Different hubs though.
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    My supplier told me that Easton had purchased Velocity. Apparently he is incorrect. I defer to Grasschopper. (sorry for the double-post)

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    I think MWW is confusing Velomax (now Easton) and Velocity. The products of these two companies are obviously quite different....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jemoryl
    I think MWW is confusing Velomax (now Easton) and Velocity. The products of these two companies are obviously quite different....
    See the reply to my email to Velocity. I got another one today as I asked a follow up question. The Ascent and Orion are in fact Velocity Aerohead front and Aerohead OC rear rims laced to Velomax (now Easton) hubs. Velocity will do custom drillings which is what Easton buys for the ascent to get the 18 spoke front. Velocity is still a private company but they sell product to Easton/Velomax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grasschopper
    I have the Velomax Circuit wheels and have had some issues with them. I guess it is how I climb out of the saddle as I rock the bike side to side and I weigh 218 lbs and have some pretty strong legs. This all adds up to some forces on the wheels that likes to knock them out of true.
    You should probably be on ORIONs. I'm at 250, and have put about 400 miles on mine and they are holding up great-better than the Mavic Flat Steel Spoked Krysirums I had.

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    Maybe I should be but I couldn't afford them at the time and knowing what I know now I would buy the same rim built by Mike Garcia at oddsandendos.com for about half of what the Orions cost. As it is I have a set coming from Mike which arrive today and will put my Circuits on the shelf as a back up set (anyone want to but a set of Velomax Circuits?) in favor of a higher spoke count more traditionally laced wheel which I hope will hold up better for me.
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