kickstand evolution some day?
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Was wondering if ever a kickstand could ever be considered a worthy component of a high end road bike. Not necessarily like the ones we're use to on the cheap-o toy store bikes, but something completely different; some new design concept. There have been at least a couple times my 3 thousand dollar baby has had the front wheel roll back the bars turn and over she goes, makes me cringe. Seems a shame that a bike part is stuck in a stigma of it's toy store past and can't evolve with the road bikes of today. It is a practical way to keep her up while parked. Just wanted to share the thought.
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I am planning to get one of these stands from Performance so that I will stop having to worry about my bike toppling over when I dont have it firmly lodged up against the wall.
While not allways available on the road, it will be my de-facto kickstand at home.
https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=6600
or
https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=4216
While not allways available on the road, it will be my de-facto kickstand at home.
https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=6600
or
https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=4216
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Originally Posted by VeganRider
Was wondering if ever a kickstand could ever be considered a worthy component of a high end road bike.
What this Flickstand does is to lock the steering and the front wheel from turning. I don't know how to live without it.
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Originally Posted by allgoo19
Someone has to come up with something like this, and doesn't have to be restricted to the size of the down tube.
What this Flickstand does is to lock the steering and the front wheel from turning. I don't know how to live without it.
What this Flickstand does is to lock the steering and the front wheel from turning. I don't know how to live without it.
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Originally Posted by filtersweep
You are joking, right? Even a bike on a kickstand can fall over.
If you don't want your bike to fall, lay it down. It can't fall any further...
If you don't want your bike to fall, lay it down. It can't fall any further...
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Originally Posted by filtersweep
You are joking, right? Even a bike on a kickstand can fall over.
If you don't want your bike to fall, lay it down. It can't fall any further...
If you don't want your bike to fall, lay it down. It can't fall any further...
I remember one day I was watching a race and a teammate saw me trying to lean my bike against a tree and have it not fall over. They came over and said, "You know if you lay it down, it can't fall down."
I just stood there in awe of the simple solution. I then felt like a complete idiot.
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Originally Posted by VeganRider
Hey thanks, I never saw one of those; will do a search on Yahoo to see if I can buy one. Looks like a great idea. Where did you get the one you use?
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Originally Posted by VeganRider
Hey thanks, I never saw one of those; will do a search on Yahoo to see if I can buy one. Looks like a great idea. Where did you get the one you use?
If anybody still sells it, I want to know who does. I know a person who is a senior citizen whose bike has been in his garage for a long time. I'm not interested in his bike but when I saw a FlickStand on that bike, my eyes just lit up. Currently, I'm making a plan on how to get that FlickStand only and not hurting his feeling at the same time.
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The one thing I DO love about steel is simple circular tubes in "normal" diameters.
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I carry a strip of velcro from Home Depot. Comes in a multi pack, you tear off each piece as needed. Don't see it on their site. Mine are red (supposedly they also come in black). Each piece is sufficiently long enough to wrap around the down tube and the front rim. For a moutain bike, I need two pieces. I put the "soft" side against the frame. Keeps the bike "straight" and all is needed is to lean the back wheel against something solid.
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Veggie welcome to the dark side. I'm working on a kickstand for a high-end bike like a tourer, or mostly for my bike when I have a loaded trailer on it and it WANTS to fall over. I need to come up with something before next Saturday so there's hope.
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I wonder if you could create a really simple lightweight kickstand on a steel bike. Braze a mounting plate at the correct angle on the chainstay an a spring mounting point further along the stay. Take some thin chromoly tubing for the stand and braze on a mount, a foot and a spring mount, then bolt them together. It should weight in at less than 1 lbs and do away with all that clamp malarky.
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The problem with laying the bike down is that when I go to group tours or organized events we all wind up lying our bikes in gravel or on asphalt and it chews up my handlebar tape and has abraded the side of one seat. Plus, other riders always tripping over bikes, stuff falling out of my bento or bottles sliding out of cages. I'll take that over a fallen bike but it's not really a soloution. It's like not having coat hangers so you just put your shirts on the floor?
I'm thinking of an extendable pole design that would soft fasten to the underside of the downtube and slide toward the rear wheel. A pair of rear facing "feet" following the curve of the stays would be out of the pedal stroke and mostly hidden. I'd like something that locks into place and lifts the rear wheel a bit, but should be spring retractable so it dosn't drop in motion.
Little cable routing problem but there are possibilities. And 'soft fastening' so it dosn't risk crushing a tube. The 'feet' could be on either side of the rear wheel (a bipod) since there's no getting in the way of chain or derailer...
But alas, i'm not mechanical. So, it's velcro on the front brake or front wheel.
I'm thinking of an extendable pole design that would soft fasten to the underside of the downtube and slide toward the rear wheel. A pair of rear facing "feet" following the curve of the stays would be out of the pedal stroke and mostly hidden. I'd like something that locks into place and lifts the rear wheel a bit, but should be spring retractable so it dosn't drop in motion.
Little cable routing problem but there are possibilities. And 'soft fastening' so it dosn't risk crushing a tube. The 'feet' could be on either side of the rear wheel (a bipod) since there's no getting in the way of chain or derailer...
But alas, i'm not mechanical. So, it's velcro on the front brake or front wheel.
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Originally Posted by ZappCatt
I am planning to get one of these stands from Performance so that I will stop having to worry about my bike toppling over when I dont have it firmly lodged up against the wall.
While not allways available on the road, it will be my de-facto kickstand at home.
https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=6600
or
https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=4216
While not allways available on the road, it will be my de-facto kickstand at home.
https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=6600
or
https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=4216
I currently use a Saris wheel rack which uses a hemispherical hoop section to constrain the wheel by the spokes with I believe to be an inelegant solution as well...don't like anything abrading my spokes to hold my bike up. So I use the Saris rack to immobilize the front or rear wheel and lean my bike up against the wall. The rack shown below looks to have a lot of merit if the roller up top can hold the rear wheel effectively.
Thanks,
George
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Originally Posted by ZappCatt
I am planning to get one of these stands from Performance so that I will stop having to worry about my bike toppling over when I dont have it firmly lodged up against the wall.
While not allways available on the road, it will be my de-facto kickstand at home.
https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=6600
or
https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=4216
While not allways available on the road, it will be my de-facto kickstand at home.
https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=6600
or
https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...tegory_ID=4216
I have 2 of the first stand... that is the way to go!! I use it at home and when I go to an event (Like the Time Trial at Lowes Motor Speedway Weds Night). The RAKK folds down flat which makes it nice to travel with in your car!! It is so worth the money!! The last thing you want to do after blowing yourself up in a TT is find a secure place to put your bike!! BLAM in the stand it goes... thought over!
I first purchased one of those plastic book end looking type of stands... 25 bucks at my LBS. Well it hits the rear derailleur and sux! For a couple more bucks... you get a sturdy metal stand. Much better.
One more thing - when I was watching one of those LANCE shows... when they were in the TRuK shop, they were talking about one of the new bike... and they were using the EXACT same bike stand!!! It is gooooooddddd for sure.
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Roadracer...is the stand you have the exact one from Performance shown? Is it steel?
How do you adjust the roller and arm to fit the diameter wheel you have?...ad says it is adjustable. Is the arm spring loaded or is there a ratchet or fixed adjustment holding the arm and roller in position? Curious if it will hold a 23mm racing tired bike solidly in place without any lean...sounds like it will.
Thanks for your comments,
George
How do you adjust the roller and arm to fit the diameter wheel you have?...ad says it is adjustable. Is the arm spring loaded or is there a ratchet or fixed adjustment holding the arm and roller in position? Curious if it will hold a 23mm racing tired bike solidly in place without any lean...sounds like it will.
Thanks for your comments,
George
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Originally Posted by biker7
Roadracer...is the stand you have the exact one from Performance shown? Is it steel?
How do you adjust the roller and arm to fit the diameter wheel you have?...ad says it is adjustable. Is the arm spring loaded or is there a ratchet or fixed adjustment holding the arm and roller in position? Curious if it will hold a 23mm racing tired bike solidly in place without any lean...sounds like it will.
Thanks for your comments,
George
How do you adjust the roller and arm to fit the diameter wheel you have?...ad says it is adjustable. Is the arm spring loaded or is there a ratchet or fixed adjustment holding the arm and roller in position? Curious if it will hold a 23mm racing tired bike solidly in place without any lean...sounds like it will.
Thanks for your comments,
George
Closed shot
This little silver button is how you open the stand up.
You can see from the side that the spring puts tension on the arm... so any size wheel would work.
Top View just so you can see how much the arm with spindle moves.
I hope these help. Crap, I wish I sold these things... :-)
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Thank you Roadracer...kind of you to enlighten me and the road bike community here with your effort to post your great pics. That looks like one sweet and well made bike stand. I just may have to pony up for one...the slick thing about it is it doesn't grab or mark your frame or spokes to hold your bike up...the first time I have seen this particular design...have seen variations on it though but that is the best one I have seen. Agree with you about Bianchi's...as well so we share the same taste all around...you like blonds too?
Cheers brother and thanks again,
George
Cheers brother and thanks again,
George
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Originally Posted by biker7
Thank you Roadracer...kind of you to enlighten me and the road bike community here with your effort to post your great pics. That looks like one sweet and well made bike stand. I just may have to pony up for one...the slick thing about it is it doesn't grab or mark your frame or spokes to hold your bike up...the first time I have seen this particular design...have seen variations on it though but that is the best one I have seen. Agree with you about Bianchi's...as well so we share the same taste all around...you like blonds too?
Cheers brother and thanks again,
George
Cheers brother and thanks again,
George