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Old 08-08-05, 09:27 AM   #26
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Nobody seems to be too worried about liberally applying chain lube, which definitely winds up all over the bike, but everyone seems to be deathly afraid of a little Armor All. The old Armor All formulation was oil based and was some nasty stuff. The new Armor All is water based and doesn't leech unless you dip your tires into it. I just spray a little on a rag and run it around the outside of my tires, then wipe off any excess. It keeps my tires from turning my fingers black for 2-3 months. If it had ever caused a problem, I wouldn't still be using it.
I for one, am a little worried about chain lube on brake surfaces and tires. I always remove excess chain lube and clean it off places it doesn't belong with alcohol or acetone. Slick brakes and tires are deadly. Be safe.
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Old 08-08-05, 12:43 PM   #27
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I use car wax on mine, anything to help preserve the paint job and finish. I owuld be wary about putting it on CF though.
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Old 08-08-05, 02:10 PM   #28
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Putting wax on CF would be no problem. All newer bikes that are painted will have a clear coat finish. Clear coat definitely benefits from wax. Clear coat finishes will oxidize over time. All consumer grade waxes regardless if they are natural or synthetic will have a small amount of polish that will remove the oxidation and leave a protective coating that will help prevent excessive oxidation. Most waxes also have a bit of UV protection as well. This polish will not remove too much of the clear coat to be harmful. You could wax your bike every week for a year and not have any harmful reduction of the clear coat.
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Simple Green is good on tires, won't make them shiny, but will get them clean. Simple Green is biodegradable and not slippery.
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Old 08-08-05, 06:17 PM   #30
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No sense in using bike branded wax because first of all it's way more expensive the car wax, and secondly their not as good as car wax. I use Mequires Gold Class or Mothers Gold. Whatever wax you use make sure it's safe for clear coats..
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My LBS recommends Pledge, yes the furniture polish, as a cheap but effective cleaning solution. Cleans and waxes at the same time.
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I've seen guys at car shows go over their rides with Pledge. There's nothing harmful about it that I know of. It gives a quick shine, but the wax doesn't last very long.
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Nobody seems to be too worried about liberally applying chain lube, which definitely winds up all over the bike,...
Well if someone is getting their lube splattered all over the bike, then they're idiots. Wipe the chain down before riding usually solves it.
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I even use Armor All on the tires.
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Old 08-22-13, 09:07 PM   #35
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Anybody have a nice alternative to Armor All to make those tires nice and shiny black?
I don't care to apply anything to my bike tires, but I always use 303 Aerospace Protectant in my car and on the tires. Lasts much longer than armor all or any of that crap and it's not oily.

Applying wax to the bike sounds like a good idea. I've never washed my bike with soap and water. Maybe it's time to do it. If I were to apply any wax, I'd definitely use Collinite Super Double Coat #476. That stuff is legendary. It's very hard to apply but once there, some have estimated it to last up to 9 months on a car. It should last much longer on the bike unless you ride in very wet environments.

On a similar note, has anyone used clay bar on their bike? I think the only place it could help me is on the down tube where a lot of dirt strikes it from the rotating tire. Polishing up a couple of scrapes wouldn't hurt either.
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I work in oil and gas company. We deal with elastomer quite a bit. I have a co-worker who is an elastomer engineer. He told us, during a monthly safety meeting, not to use any kind of tire shine products because it will dry the tires. I'm not qualified to explain the chemical reaction but I take his words. Car tires are thicker than bike tires. If my coworker was concern that tire shine products would do some damage to car tires, imagine what it would do to bike tires.

Moreover, the side wall of any kind of tire is the weakest point in tire design. Have you ever wondered why tire shops won't repair tires with sidewall damage? Also, why race car engineers pay extra attention to tire sidewall strength for high speed cornering in races?

As for waxing the frame, if any car wax is good enough to protect the car paint, then it is good enough for bike frames.

My 2 cents.
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Old 08-22-13, 11:15 PM   #37
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Back when I washed my car, I'd always use Race Glaze...after a good buffing, the car was slippery as hell! Which usually led to my friends jumping on the hood and sliding across it.

http://www.amazon.com/GLAZE-POLISH-S.../dp/B000MV599Y
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Old 08-22-13, 11:26 PM   #38
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I have the hardest time understanding armor all on the tires. anyway, I use the cheaper wax on my bike..on my car I'm exclusive to pinnacle waxes, especially souverin paste.
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Been into the car scene for decades and the old guys used a trick for tire dressing long before ArmorAll and the like was ever concieved....sugar in water. Weird I know, but that was the hot tip in the early days. Hot water, dissolve sugar, dispense liberally from spray bottle. Can't comment on the concentration, but I have tried it and it does work, not as good as today's products of course. It is cheap though, and not gonna be slippery. May be where the term Sweet Ride originated, who knows? Didn't notice it ever attracting dust or insects either. Wedgie
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I know bikes can have different finishes and surface textures. I am not sure whether car wax would work well with all of them. It seems like something I would be more tempted to use on my old steel frame bikes. Personally I have never had any need for any product to clean the bike. Usually warm water pretty much does the job.
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Old 08-23-13, 04:56 AM   #41
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DANGER!! It is CAR wax any application of any Non Bike specific product will result in very bad things happening.....you have been warned
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I've found the best stuff is Honda Spray Cleaner. Cuts right through grease, leaves a nice shine and protection. You can pick it up at any Honda Motorcycle Dealer. Really, it's good stuff.
Cool tip. I'll check it out.

I've been using Pledge spray furniture wax happily, though it is a 4 step process for best results: 1) wash with dish detergent and water, 2) rinse soap residue with clean water and rag, 3) apply Pledge to clean, dry rag and wipe down bike (avoiding tires and brake surfaces), and 4) buff with clean dry rag.

The nice thing about Pledge vs. car wax is that it leaves no colored buildup in corners and doesn't require the same level of detail work to get great results.

Depending on riding conditions, the wax job is good for a month or two, and I can just wipe down the bike between waxes to keep it looking new.
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My LBS recommends Pledge, yes the furniture polish, as a cheap but effective cleaning solution. Cleans and waxes at the same time.
I don't find Pledge cleans well; may dust okay, but greasy grime? No way.
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DANGER!! It is CAR wax any application of any Non Bike specific product will result in very bad things happening.....you have been warned
Like in the same way the Dupont Imron paint often used on bikes was developed as a truck specific product?
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Slip dangers of Armor All on tires is no big deal, I've used it on the full surface of two tone racing tires, no big woop, no slippage. However, it does seep in and weaken the tire material - that's a better reason to avoid it. Rubbing alcohol does a nice job of cleaning tires, but it dries them out if used regularly, also to be avoided.

Quality car wax on bike frames is budda. I've used it on a weaved CF translucent frame, gorgeous. Just stay away from any wax with cleaning agent/oxidizer in the mix.
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This from a high end bike company:

Anything automotive grade that is silicone free.

If you have a matte finish, this will make it shiny so do not use on matte finish. Just clean with mild soap and water.
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is right. No way I'm bombing down a steep descent with shiny stuff anywhere on my tires.
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Also avoid getting wax on brake surfaces (obviously). I accidentally dripped some on and even after trying to wipe it all off the next time I tried to stop wasn't very pleasant...
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Another vote for furniture polish. After washing it's great for the frame, wheels, cranks, brakes etc. No need to buff out all those nooks and crannies. Just rub with a soft cloth and then wipe off the tires and brake tracks with isopropyl.
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Another vote for furniture polish. After washing it's great for the frame, wheels, cranks, brakes etc. No need to buff out all those nooks and crannies. Just rub with a soft cloth and then wipe off the tires and brake tracks with isopropyl.
Precisely.
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