DocRay

Has anyone seen the KNAVE and Hipcycler together in one room?

Maybe Hipcycler IS the Knave...(!).

also, ...Elvis.

Cromulent

The Knave is a spectre, a wraith... what Jung termed 'the shadow.' He exists deep within ourselves. He is what we see in the mirror when we put on our Assos bibs and two-hundred dollar vintage wool jerseys with matching socks and Sidi shoes. He is our inner dirtbag mountain biker that yearns to put on cut off jeans, a Megadeath t-shirt, and an old pair of Converse high-tops and head out on the trails hunting for roadies. He is the whirr of knobby tires passing us on the open road. He is the hill that tears our legs to ribbons. He is that fear deep inside that tells us we're never quite good enough, that we never look good enough, that someone else might set his or her Watt meter to 400 and leave us in the dust. He is the shadow. And we can never 'drop' him because he is us.

Or he might be Hip.

Hipcycler

ME (and Mrs. Hip)


The Knave

Cromulent

Or he might not.

gurana

LOL. I've had this thought as well. I imagine some sort of 'fight club' scenario where hip realizes that he is in fact the KNAVE. I imagine a shot of hip, when it first strikes him, where the camera pulls back while zooming in, the whole time you see a look that is both bewildered but also scerene, as if he knew deep down inside all along.

I think somebody else also brought up this theory, but what if the KNAVE is really hips father!
The Knave: you were never told what happened to your father.
Hip: I was told enough. I was told that you dropped him.
The Knave: No. *I* am your father.
Hip: No, it can't be! That's impossible!
The Knave: Search your feelings. You know it to be true.
Hip: NOOOOOO!!!!!!!

hi565

OMG! your...wife...THE KNAVE *SHUDDER*

Hipcycler

Funny thing is...I grew up not knowing my father. This could be closer to reality than you think!

The Knave

Doppelganger?

Between the conception
And the spasm
Between the potency
And the existence
Between the essence
And the descent
Falls the Shadow
(from "The Hollow Men" by T.S. Eliot)

"A Doppelgänger is a German expression literally meaning a "double walker". Often this term is used to describe a ghostly or shadowy self that is thought to accompany a person. Many times this entity is considered mischievous, tempting or luring its host onto the "dark" path. Seen in a broader sense, the Doppelgänger is just a reflection of our own base nature and makes a convenient rationalization for poor life-choices stemming from the inability to advance ourselves spiritually. Long a preoccupation with poets, composers, artists and filmmakers, the Doppelgänger is actually a real thing of ethereal substance that a person forms through spiritual neglect, i.e. by dragging the ideal of spirituality down to an earthly level instead of striving upwards to the great heights where human spirituality originates. The Doppelgänger attaches itself to our beings until we literally burn it off through a steadfast change in volition towards the spiritual.

The problem of the Doppelgänger really becomes significant, however, when an artist begins to surrender to the world of his shadow over the world of his spirit, the velvety allure of the Darkness as opposed to the austere, demanding Light. This is powerfully caught in the "Hymns to the Night" by Novalis, who wrote this poem after the death of his beloved and shortly before his own death at 29:"

Have you also
A human heart,
Dark night
What are you holding
Under your cloak,
That grabs so unseen, strongly
At my soul?

Let's hope it's just some 'Knave' on a bike, perhaps the simplest and comforting conclusion we can reach.
I had a fever lastnight due to a cold, and had a dream I met Hip.
Hip, did you dream last night of meeting some guy on a mountain bike?

Hipcycler

.....No I swear I saw him today....Not once but twice. Both times coming at me in the opposite direction. I'm not imagining him....It can't be....When will his twisted tail and hunched sweatshirt back finally rid itself from my mind? Is it all leading up to a Halloween Day ride into eternity?

I'm starting to get scarred. Can I ever leave it all now, or is it too late for me? Will this haunt me until the end of time!

Serpico

awesome avatar Doc



nice compromise

Serpico

hipcycler, this is the third photo you've posted of...

and I gotta say--your girl is a stone fox

she looks like equal parts strong/pretty/smart/kind, just get that sense from this pic and the one you posted when you were on holiday (the rental cruiser bikes)

lucky man

Gangrel

man i thought hip was way older

you know

cuz of the hip

Elvish Legion

I'm tellin ya, I'm the Knave I ride in the excat set up (save the bike)

Namenda

Actually, I think The Knave is a bike painter. How long has Hip been chasing this guy, about 15 months now? Leave him be, he has a job to finish.

mollusk

About a month ago I was taking a Sunday ride on a local bike trail with my 9 year old son. We were stopped on the side of the trail and he was having a snack/drink. While we were there a rider came along and said "I've been chasing you for months and I've finally caught you!" Am I a KNAVE?

CPcyclist

I nearly spit my water out. Damn you (shaking fist)

I personally think the Knave is Hips evil twin....




I mean they are total opposites Hip=OCP FC and Knave=anti-OCP.

jeff williams

Like this?

Polonswim

Ok, that is one of the funniest things I have read in these forums. First, the humor is subtle. Second, you have to have been here and reading a lot to get it. That is one of the classic lines of all time. I may go to bed still laughing at that one. Great line. Thanks.

The Knave

He's likely a chain Ring Wraith.

Buy a mountain bike Hip, join the Darkside.

Join us, we can race through eternity together.

Namenda

Thanks for noticing. Usually folks just give me a blank stare, followed by a shake of the head. Then I'll hear them, a few minutes later, regurgitating their soup. Nothing funnier than soup out the nose, I assure you.

Hipcycler

Thanks Zig.
Actually, you're dead on.

...and I just showed Mrs. Hip the thread and she now loves you!

2manybikes

I thought I saw the Knave today. No mater how fast I went he never really materialized. Almost as if he were a ghost ! I wonder?

DocRay

This is why I don't post pics of my wife.

jeff williams

Nice looking rock, where? In Can?

2manybikes

"Close Encounters" rock. Right?