KrisPistofferson

Switch to decaf. It was a joke.

pigmode

I only drink 9 cups in the morning. I know you were joking, but my question is legit. I'm interested in the opinions of this board.

ovoleg

What you do is you get out and sprint past them, then you put your head close to your front tire as to pretend you have a flat, pull over and go another way.



Show them that you are stronger !

RainbowRider

Actually a good question.. Perhaps it is as easy as nobody likes to get caught. By seeing someone else going hard you start thinking that every ride is a race to them, and if that is the way they see it, then they must surely think of you as slow. Perhaps that train of thought can explain why some of us gets pissed off when we are caught.

2Rodies

You are correct it is a legit question. First to me the amount someone spends on a bike is pretty reletive. Why do you see more older guys on expensive bikes than younger guys? It's pretty simple most 24 year old college kids (god I'm referring to a 24 year old as a kid now) don't have 4k in disposable income while most 40 year olds do. Would I have liked to own a Porsche when I was 20? Why yes I would. That would have been pretty freak'n cool. Well I had to wait until my mid 30's when I could afford one. It doesn't strike me as odd to see older guys in expensive cars or riding an expensive bike because chances are they have finally made enough dough to achieve some of their dreams. Why does everyone gotta piss on that. Some day you guys are gonna be 40 or 50 and hopefully be making enough scratch that a 4 or 5k on a bike won't be that big of a deal. Maybe when you get that point you won't want to buy an expsive bike, maybe it will be traveling around the world or spending 10k on a safari in Africa. Whatever it is enjoy what you've got and let other do the same.

galen_52657

I think the OP was trying to claim:

1. Male cyclists don't like to be passed by women cyclists
2. The males that seem to take it the hardest are older and ride expensive bikes

People are funny. I would bet that the observation of the OP is correct. I think it is a testable hypothosis.

All we need is a fast female and an area frequented by male cyclists. Then we have her pass the males and see who chases her and tries to re-pass her. It would be a fun experiment!

KrisPistofferson

Well, I'm not one of those guys that considers a $2000 bike all that expensive. I've been around bikes long enough to know exactly what you get for a particular pricepoint. However, I consider a bicycle "expensive" when you can buy a brand-new car for the same price! That's not to say I would never spend $10,000 on a bike, just that I would consider it expensive.

2Rodies

You want some fast women (cyclist) come to Austin we have quite a few and they are pretty too!

fmw

I'm an old guy. I could care less who passes me and I could care less that they think I'm slow. I could care less what they think of me or anything else, actually. If someone passes me on a bike I just wave at them.

I believe you folks have it backward. It is the young who are hung up on what people think of them. Maturity softens that. Most of us old codgers just ignore this kind of thing. Can't road cycling exist without racing?

galen_52657

NO

hiracer

I'm an older guy, and much prefer getting passed by shapely women than passing them.

Think about it. It's about quality of workout.

The biggest problem is that it doesn't happen often enough, and not because I'm fast. We need more cute women riding bikes. Somebody should do something about this.

DannoXYZ 

Heh, heh... now it's my turn to mess with the guys who dissed me when I started racing. Now they're middle-aged, pudgy and balding. My GF runs 4-5 marathons a year, so she's pretty fit. Whenever we come up on one of these guys, I'll lead her out to get up to speed. Then right when we're about 30-40ft behind him, I'll pull off and we'll do the Madison sling-shot to give her an additional 5mph. I'll slow dow by 5mph as a result and pull in behind him... Funny to see these guys huff and puff to chase down a chic that just flew by +15mph faster than them..

galen_52657

Pure Evil.....

ovoleg

I'll catch her eventually , that 15mph slingshot will only last so long

Bring it on Danno's GF!

asfried

Yup. That describes my life exactly. I try to be humble and just train for my own improvement. The only time I will NOT let a woman pass me is if it happens to be my OWN wife. I would rather get an MI than let HER pass. In the words of my father, when you play sports against your boss or your wife, play to kill!

RockyMtnMerlin

Older guy here too. I have a Merlin/Campy Record/Topolino. Why? I wanted something that would last nearly forever. If I get passed I say hello. If I pass someone I say hello. It is courteous to be courteous.

antiquebiker

With age comes equanimity.

I am happy to be riding at 49.

I am happy to keep up with somebody as long as possible, I'm happier when I pass someone going up hill.

You will always be better than some and there will ALWAYS be someone better than you. Best to be happy with your own progress and keep focused on that!

OK now you can flame the old timer....

ReptilesBlade 

^^^

And Lance is better than all of us.

SF Biker

Galen, yes! That was very perceptive and eloquently stated, as that is my exact point. Let the experiment begin!

FYI, no scientific proof in regards to human behavior as it has been purely by observation, but throw in a climb and the guy seems to go even more ape $hit.

pigmode

Right on. I've always only owned one bike at any one time, except for when I had a MTB. I'll finally be building a 2nd bike come late winter. I can afford a 4k carbon frame, and would love a 16.5# bike, but some logic holds me back. I'll probably end up with custom steel.

To my mind, an inexperienced rider should have a certain humbleness in attitude, similar to that expected in a trade apprentice. Dues have to be paid. If they keep to this mindset, I can't see how any reasonable rider will have cause to put them down for having an expensive tool.

asfried

I was with you until I read the above quote. "Dues have to be paid."???? How silly. Maybe if you are the newest member of a pro team. As far as us amateurs go, I think its best not to take an attitude and set standards for others. A good analogy might be to suggest that Chicago Cubs season ticket holders should have to "pay their dues." Guys who just moved to town last year and bought tickets should "have a certain humbleness in attitude" towards guys like my father-in-law who has had the same seats for decades. You know, not yell as loud as the more experienced Cubs fans or wear as much Cubs clothing, etc. Maybe less experienced Cubs fans should only be allowed to eat one hot-dog or be required to step aside when my father-in-law walks to his seat. Silly.

Frankly, I don't even know what other riders' attitudes are due to the fact that I simply couldn't care less. Live and let live. OPeople wanting a demonstration of "humbleness" from "inexperienced" riders should start by examining their own attitudes first.

SDRider

Personally, there isn't a $10,000 car made that I would consider buying.

Dchiefransom

We could apply this logic to all kinds of things in life. How much food people that don't farm are allowed, whether people that haven't served in the military have full civil rights, etc, etc, etc.

pigmode

I have no idea of what you are trying to say up there.

The way to cycling fittness, solid bike handling skills, and knowledge of the road is a long and lonely path. You can go out and ride with a bunch of your friends all of the time, but the lessons you learn and the pain you endure are yours to bear alone. Once you have them, you have earned them all on your own. Are these not dues that all experienced cyclists have payed? Are you so knee-jerk as to think that I mean some riders should bow down to others (apparently yes)? Is it not reasonable to expect riders of lessor experience to not act like jackasses by becoming nuisances do to lack of ettiquette, or worse, creating a dangerous situation?

richc

God this thread is pathetic. Can't you people just go out for a ride?