thewalrus

I'm looking at this wheelset for a 'beater' set... 105 hubs with Mavic CXP22 rims. $139 + 16 shipping is hard to beat for a set that says it's hand-tensioned. Has anyone had good or bad experience with these rims?

https://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?c...eid=&pagename=

At first I was considering the many Shimano WH-R500 and WH-R550 sets on Ebay, but they're closer to $200 + shipping and use proprietary spokes.

endform

The question is what kind of spokes are they using on their build? Straight 2.0/15 gauge's or what?

The good thing about getting locally built wheels is that some shops offer a life time garauntee, which translates to free trueing for the life of the wheel.

53-11_alltheway

LOL, really?

Free liftetime truing is a hell of a good deal because the shops I know of only charge like $35 wheel to build.

GoJavs

I've got some CXP22s w/ Shimano 2200s (which is less than 105s). I have them on my 4th/5th bike and they are true and good. Now, if i rode them for than a few hundred miles a year I'm not sure what would happen, but they seem fine enough for me. I also have some CXP22s with Formula hubs and they are pretty sturdy as well.

I say go for it. Nashbar's pretty good about returns...

sydney

And what's the big whoop about straight gage? I have several including cxp22s built with them and altho theoretically not the hottest setup and a bit heavier,they have been problem free.

sydney

Is that up some hollow in West Virginia? Around here it's $80 and up for spokes and labor.You supply rim and hub.

53-11_alltheway

No, that's strictly labor (per wheel) without spokes.

53-11_alltheway

These wheels don't look bad. I don't really dig straight guage spokes and the rims are heavy if I recall right, but this would be a pretty strong set.

I'll place bets that they come to you with low tension though. That's how my nashbar wheels came to me.

dekalbSTEEL

Here's a similar set on ebay
https://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

I asked the seller about the weight and he replied

"I finally got a set to weigh it is 915 grams front
1105 grams rear"

sydney

^^^ with or without skewers? Not that it matters.They aren't weight weenie wheels.

BarconsOrBust

A friend of mine has those rims and his breaks squeal like crazy. I've tried toeing them in for him many times, but its always only a quick fix. I've never had any trouble toeing in breaks other than on this bike. I've come to suspect that it's due to the groove in the breaking surface. I imagine that the pad would wear into the groove, creating some strange friction.

Perhaps the problem was with the break pads, but we tried others (still just cheapie replacements nonetheless) and had the same trouble.

Unless someone can explain that groove to me, and offer another reason as to why my friend's breaks would squeal so badly I would say it's a classic case of over engineering.

sydney

It's a wear indicator groove.Required in some countries,and likely to be seen more often in this country even if not required just due to global markets.

BarconsOrBust

How does the indicator work? I used to have a pair of Xero wheels that came stock on the Giant I used to ride that had a small logo-looking engraving that was meant to be a wear indicator.

Should the indicator theoretically fade off the rim when you have used it enough? All I never noticed was a thin line on the break pad that had obviously been carved out by the groove. Perhaps my friend abuses his breaks a little, but that groove was always at the heart of my suspicions.

Starclimber

Well, since some puke stole your work bike, make sure these units are durable, as you'll probably end up riding them daily in Wet Coast conditions.

sydney

Good catch.No rocket science here.

thewalrus

they're 490g/rim, and with 32 spokes, they should be as durable as a $140 wheelset will get... Luckily I won a Fetish 56cm aluminum road bike frame on ebay last week. I wasn't *planning* to replace my work bike, but since I don't want to use my proper road bike (the Allez in my sig) for work, as it's too nice, I think I will build the Fetish frame up with a cheap wheelset and flat bars. In vancouver winter rims wear out in 6 months but I won't feel bad about constantly braking hard on a $140 wheelset.

I hope the Fetish frame fits 28mm tires, 23 gets caught in some sidewalk cracks here

endform

I have no problem with straight gauge spokes, just thin straight gauge spokes are a little silly as far as spoke breakage concerns go. Either way, there is at least one shop that I know and frequent quite often that garauntee's your wheels, I'll leave it up to anyone in Portland to easily figure that out, they charge 40 dollars labor only.

Maybe your shop doesn't garauntee them because they suck..... *cough*

Starclimber

Speaking of cracks...try taking the Westham Island bridge some day. Thick wooden planks with tire swallowing gaps between. The worst of the splintered gray menaces have been replaced midspan, but tire gobbling horrors still draw the eye and lure front tires from end to end....shudder. 25mm tires were little solace, 23's ...the horror... Is it simply stupid pride that stops me walking the damn thing? Or the danger of being run down from behind by organic produce crazed shoppers...

Snow geese like it too...Reifel Bird Sanctuary

62vette

I have CXP22 rims on 105 (front) and 600 (rear) hubs as my training wheelset. I can't recall what spokes I have but probably a DT of some sort. They have stayed pretty true over ~15000km with only a couple of loosening spokes needing sorting.

Definitely not lightweight wheels, but good enough for training - and I run Vittoria Randonneur 700x28 tyres for additional puncture protection on the glass strewn roads round where I live.

When I put my race wheels on my bike feels like it is flying