My first crash
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My first crash
ok so last week I used a chain breaker tool and removed my chain for the first time ever to clean it. I had gotten instruction on how to do this at my LBS, so I was pretty confident I could perform this easy task.
Well in the process I lost one of the little bushings that goes between the plates that make up a link.
4 days later I found that little bushing and put it back on.
Today during my ride, the chain popped off and I crashed. This was my first ever crash. I was accelerating through a turn and went down hard, cracking my helmet, so I will need a new one of those.
a bit of road rash and I think my seat is toast (bent badly) and I am pretty sure my chain came apart where I had taken it apart before.
So should I get a new chain? Or pick up a link and continue to use my old chain. The chain has about 5k miles on it but no strectch as measured by me with a tape measure.
I will also be happy to read any tips you may have on using a chain tool I do want to learn from my mistakes.
If I get a new chain what is the best bang for the buck? My old chain is a Z chain ( I think that it is a ZMC chain? THere is a Z on every link).
And since I it looks like I will be asking for a new seat for x-mas or birthday, point me in the direction of any good deals that way too
Well in the process I lost one of the little bushings that goes between the plates that make up a link.
4 days later I found that little bushing and put it back on.
Today during my ride, the chain popped off and I crashed. This was my first ever crash. I was accelerating through a turn and went down hard, cracking my helmet, so I will need a new one of those.
a bit of road rash and I think my seat is toast (bent badly) and I am pretty sure my chain came apart where I had taken it apart before.
So should I get a new chain? Or pick up a link and continue to use my old chain. The chain has about 5k miles on it but no strectch as measured by me with a tape measure.
I will also be happy to read any tips you may have on using a chain tool I do want to learn from my mistakes.
If I get a new chain what is the best bang for the buck? My old chain is a Z chain ( I think that it is a ZMC chain? THere is a Z on every link).
And since I it looks like I will be asking for a new seat for x-mas or birthday, point me in the direction of any good deals that way too
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Sorry to hear about your crash. Heal strong and get back out there soon.
As for the chain stretch, you can't measure it with a tape measure. There is a special tool that the LBS uses to measure chain stretch. Hear it is:
https://www.parktool.com/products/det...5&item=CC%2D2#
I had about 2k on my original chain. The stretch was a measured 1.0 or 1% stretched at which time I replaced it. With 5k on your chain, it sounds like it's over due for replacement. Sram makes nice chains and the Ultegra chains are durable and not too expensive.
Good luck,
Dante.
As for the chain stretch, you can't measure it with a tape measure. There is a special tool that the LBS uses to measure chain stretch. Hear it is:
https://www.parktool.com/products/det...5&item=CC%2D2#
I had about 2k on my original chain. The stretch was a measured 1.0 or 1% stretched at which time I replaced it. With 5k on your chain, it sounds like it's over due for replacement. Sram makes nice chains and the Ultegra chains are durable and not too expensive.
Good luck,
Dante.
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Well, I guess welcome to the crash club.
You probably won't be straddling the fence on the helmet debate. Most likely, you would have felt it a lot more on the noggin if you hadn't been wearing one.
As far as a new seat, check out Performance. They might have a nice one on sale. Seats are too personal for anyone to know for sure if there's is right for you, but I really like my Fizik Arione.
Glad you fared relatively well. Better a broken seat than a broken bone.
You probably won't be straddling the fence on the helmet debate. Most likely, you would have felt it a lot more on the noggin if you hadn't been wearing one.
As far as a new seat, check out Performance. They might have a nice one on sale. Seats are too personal for anyone to know for sure if there's is right for you, but I really like my Fizik Arione.
Glad you fared relatively well. Better a broken seat than a broken bone.
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THe bike shop I just went too said I should have used a new pin, not the same one I pushed out to take the chain off the bike? I had not heard that before but then I had never taken a chain off before either.
And yes I do always wear a helmet when riding cause I know I am clumsy
I am think about the Fizik Arione or maybe the new E3 by performance
And yes I do always wear a helmet when riding cause I know I am clumsy
I am think about the Fizik Arione or maybe the new E3 by performance
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Originally Posted by Bolo Grubb
THe bike shop I just went too said I should have used a new pin, not the same one
Definately get a new chain.
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Get a SRAM or Wipperman with a quickconnect. Easier to take the chain off for cleaning and put it back on again.
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Originally Posted by Dante Sarveroni
Correct. You should always use a new pin.
Definately get a new chain.
Dante
Definately get a new chain.
Dante
I think I will get a new chain, probably a SRAM chain. I assume that pins have to be the same brand as the chain?
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Originally Posted by Bolo Grubb
I think I will get a new chain, probably a SRAM chain. I assume that pins have to be the same brand as the chain?
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I can't comment on the replacement of the pin after removal as I've removed mine multiple times over the years and always used the same one Not recommending it, just giving my experience.
BUT, when you replaced the pin, did you detension it? By this I mean when you put the pin back in, did you flip the chain breaker over and apply pressure to the pin from the opposite side that you pressed it in from? This will detension it allowing it to pivot easily as well as ensure that the pin is flush with both sides of the link.
If you did this, disregard
Sorry to hear about your crash, lesson learned I guess but at least by posting about it you may have prevented somebody else from suffering the same fate.
BUT, when you replaced the pin, did you detension it? By this I mean when you put the pin back in, did you flip the chain breaker over and apply pressure to the pin from the opposite side that you pressed it in from? This will detension it allowing it to pivot easily as well as ensure that the pin is flush with both sides of the link.
If you did this, disregard
Sorry to hear about your crash, lesson learned I guess but at least by posting about it you may have prevented somebody else from suffering the same fate.
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Originally Posted by SteveAZ
I can't comment on the replacement of the pin after removal as I've removed mine multiple times over the years and always used the same one Not recommending it, just giving my experience.
BUT, when you replaced the pin, did you detension it? By this I mean when you put the pin back in, did you flip the chain breaker over and apply pressure to the pin from the opposite side that you pressed it in from? This will detension it allowing it to pivot easily as well as ensure that the pin is flush with both sides of the link.
If you did this, disregard
Sorry to hear about your crash, lesson learned I guess but at least by posting about it you may have prevented somebody else from suffering the same fate.
BUT, when you replaced the pin, did you detension it? By this I mean when you put the pin back in, did you flip the chain breaker over and apply pressure to the pin from the opposite side that you pressed it in from? This will detension it allowing it to pivot easily as well as ensure that the pin is flush with both sides of the link.
If you did this, disregard
Sorry to hear about your crash, lesson learned I guess but at least by posting about it you may have prevented somebody else from suffering the same fate.
No Steve I did not do that, but the link did seem to move freely. Thanks for the tip though, as they say Knowledge is power.
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Originally Posted by geneman
Get a SRAM or Wipperman with a quickconnect. Easier to take the chain off for cleaning and put it back on again.
Mark
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Something like this: https://www.performancebike.com/shop/...&slitrk=search
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shimano makes specific replacement pins for their chains. You can use a SRAM gold powerlink on shimano 9 spd chains, but a SRAM silver (8spd) will not work on a Shimano 8 spd chain. If you are replacing the entire chain a new SRAM chain will have the powerlink included.
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Originally Posted by SteveAZ
BUT, when you replaced the pin, did you detension it? By this I mean when you put the pin back in, did you flip the chain breaker over and apply pressure to the pin from the opposite side that you pressed it in from? This will detension it allowing it to pivot easily as well as ensure that the pin is flush with both sides of the link.
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I've had the best luck with SRAM chains, both 8 & 9 speed. I like the Powerlink better than the pin, mainly for ease of removal and replacement, but also for the defined feeling that this piece is locked in tight.
As far as seats, check out koobi.com. I've had four of them and have loved each one. They feel great (esp. if you're a bigger guy) and last quite a while.
As far as seats, check out koobi.com. I've had four of them and have loved each one. They feel great (esp. if you're a bigger guy) and last quite a while.
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Originally Posted by lecterman
I agree, this could have been the culprit. As a friend of mine instructed me, "you have to make sure you have a little bit of a 'tit' sticking out on each side".
Good tip
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Originally Posted by lecterman
I agree, this could have been the culprit. As a friend of mine instructed me, "you have to make sure you have a little bit of a 'tit' sticking out on each side".
Lucky for me I get to live and learn
Thank for all the tips
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Sorry to hear about the crash. I'm not looking forward to my first one (I just started riding again.)
Link to Seat
I just bought this seat but haven't tried it out yet.
Link to Seat
I just bought this seat but haven't tried it out yet.